Cold Chronomancer Megathread. All content cleared. Leveling guide added. Low-budget build added.

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Reazura#7255 wrote:
Ah I have Ingenuity. Once you have double Breach Ring/Breach + DreamFragments, Ingenuity is great. Here's my current setup. https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/is7qm0ds

As for breaking the wall with Nova, frost wall life reduction is necessary until your damage just eventually overtakes it


Great, thanks for the info. I tested without icicle and I need 2 novas to break the wall. I'll save up for 2 good breach rings (hah, not even going to think about dream fragments yet) and see how it goes. Maybe just enough to burst the wall with 1 nova.
I have been on full mana for a week now and it has been great.

Today though, I was doing a trial of chaos, super easy as usual.

But against the bird boss, I froze it, one hit killed him and died. I think I went to low mana after triggering comet and maybe died from a AOE on death trigger from it, not sure.

I really don’t want to go back to everlasting glaze. Anyway to get a little buffer not to get killed by small attack like that?

Changé in CoC. More mana? (6.5k now)

I would really not want to remove CI. Gearing is so hard alreadt
Has anyone tried using Fireball instead of Frostbolt to burst the walls?
It seems to be working for me.
Then I could ditch the Snakepit ring and get a nice breach ring (for my nice shiny, just bought, Ingenuity belt).

Also Fireball has a bit of synergy because I have Stormbreaker passive (assuming the fireball has enough damage to ignite).
Anything will break wall with enough damage. I actually found bone blast to scale a lot with level. But it is slow
I've been using fireball for a few maps. Works pretty well, apart from blowing up the screen with fireballs, hard to see stuff.
But I'm not igniting mobs, so not really getting that synergy.

Also, I guess I'm losing the advantage of the freeze build up from the Frostbolt. I know the wall insta freezes bosses / other large mobs but maybe frostbolt freezes other smaller mobs.

I'm really liking this build, can try various variations but still works.

EDIT: The map clearing does seem quicker with Fireball vs Frostbolt. Maybe it's too early to be sure, I'll post results when I've done more maps etc.
Last edited by Telmorial#0280 on Feb 16, 2025, 3:14:34 AM
Meanwhile, small build update.

Maxroll: https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/6x7q0cm3

I decided to add my current build w/ double curse in Blasphemy, called endgame v2 at gear/skills. The passive tree is the same, but different chest, Against the Darkness with max mana instead of mana on kill/crit jewel, and skill gems setup.

This version has less mana (6k vs 6.3k) and boss damage (-23% curse), but performs better in Simulacrum and maps with + monster ele res bc of 40% Conductivity. Blink is on the offset tho.

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I wanted to compare the experience with spark cw and cold chrono per budget range, but smth went wrong and I invested in SW way more than I intended. Was rushing to make it good.

I tried to build medium-budget cold chrono too (almost recreated maxroll late-game build with a slightly modified passive tree), but after I finished the build in 55d I didn't find anything I could match with the budget of Spark (110d).

From Nothing and Comet +3 ain't really good options to bloat the budget even if it would raise it to exactly 110d. Comet +3 doesn't feel good with 4k mana on bosses, and From Nothing Jewel isn't required at level 90 build.

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So, here is my lvl 90 Spark CoS-LC Stormweaver (110d budget): https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/7484h0dp

Vs Xesht lvl 82:

Spoiler


Simu 82 wave 15: https://youtu.be/aSxpcnR30iE

Looks decent, but I was failing Simulacrums before I slapped the last 30d (failed 5 out of 7 total attempts).

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And here is Cold Chronomancer lvl 90 (55d budget): https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/5e8680dj

Vs Xesht lvl 82:
Spoiler


Simu 82 wave 15: https://youtu.be/LMX1JPMecBs

The funny thing here, I failed 1 out of 4 Simulacrums 82 with this build. I wasn't prepared for 0.1.1c nerf at all and it's big af.

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- Both builds are at the point I don't need to invest in them anymore.

- Spark SW mapping and breach experience is definitely superior. It's not that much faster tho, but it offscreens hard.

- Frostbolt+Wall clear is good enough, but it's not braindead, can't offscreen, and inferior in tight corridor maps.

- 36 deaths in 47 hours played on my Cold Chrono, vs 76 deaths in 26 hours on my Spark SW. I won't lvl with lightning spells ever again. My bossing experience with them in the campaign was really bad before I put on Kitoko gloves.

- Anything related to bosses I prefer on Cold Chronomancer. Time Freeze is stress free cheese button, and aoe slow offers more chill gameplay. There are damage windows on some bosses between phases, and slowed boss is easier to dodge (I failed my 1st citadel on spark SW bc I couldn't react to boss attack before he phased).

- Anything related to clear is absolutely superior on SW.

- If we are talking about all-content build on ~50d or less, I'm on the Chrono side. Spark is more expensive to get good (for me).

- If we are talking about the endgame hybrid build, I prefer Chronomancer. CoC is more reliable than CoS, and AoE slow is really good defensive layer. I feel better on 6k mana Chrono, than 6.3k SW with 1k regen. Clear/bossing is good on both.

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So, the biggest problem of our build is... going past the medium-budget build w/Snakepit. There are no upgrades besides a major switch.
Last edited by monik390#5560 on Feb 16, 2025, 8:09:08 AM
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I really don’t want to go back to everlasting glaze. Anyway to get a little buffer not to get killed by small attack like that?


You gotta pick your poison here, either remove CI or EB. I currently removed both just to be able to never think about dying again. Relying purely on mana to defend you is going to get you killed with this build since you'll be spending it all often and you'll be prone to get one tapped even with Melting Maelstrom
I have no blink in my setup cuz I dont wanna ditch Grim Feast.
I got that 5 socket Morior (all my grind in ultimatum is vanished xD) but totally I have only 1600 ES and 3000 mana. (MoM+EB+CI)
I have no place to put gear with additional spirit so I basically only relying on that 224 spirit Omen Sceptre. xDDDD
Last edited by default_mp3#9394 on Feb 16, 2025, 9:48:27 AM
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monik390#5560 wrote:
Meanwhile, small build update.

Maxroll: https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/6x7q0cm3

I decided to add my current build w/ double curse in Blasphemy, called endgame v2 at gear/skills. The passive tree is the same, but different chest, Against the Darkness with max mana instead of mana on kill/crit jewel, and skill gems setup.

This version has less mana (6k vs 6.3k) and boss damage (-23% curse), but performs better in Simulacrum and maps with + monster ele res bc of 40% Conductivity. Blink is on the offset tho.

~~~~

I wanted to compare the experience with spark cw and cold chrono per budget range, but smth went wrong and I invested in SW way more than I intended. Was rushing to make it good.

I tried to build medium-budget cold chrono too (almost recreated maxroll late-game build with a slightly modified passive tree), but after I finished the build in 55d I didn't find anything I could match with the budget of Spark (110d).

From Nothing and Comet +3 ain't really good options to bloat the budget even if it would raise it to exactly 110d. Comet +3 doesn't feel good with 4k mana on bosses, and From Nothing Jewel isn't required at level 90 build.

~~~~

So, here is my lvl 90 Spark CoS-LC Stormweaver (110d budget): https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/7484h0dp

Vs Xesht lvl 82:

Spoiler


Simu 82 wave 15: https://youtu.be/aSxpcnR30iE

Looks decent, but I was failing Simulacrums before I slapped the last 30d (failed 5 out of 7 total attempts).

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And here is Cold Chronomancer lvl 90 (55d budget): https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/5e8680dj

Vs Xesht lvl 82:
Spoiler


Simu 82 wave 15: https://youtu.be/LMX1JPMecBs

The funny thing here, I failed 1 out of 4 Simulacrums 82 with this build. I wasn't prepared for 0.1.1c nerf at all and it's big af.

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- Both builds are at the point I don't need to invest in them anymore.

- Spark SW mapping and breach experience is definitely superior. It's not that much faster tho, but it offscreens hard.

- Frostbolt+Wall clear is good enough, but it's not braindead, can't offscreen, and inferior in tight corridor maps.

- 36 deaths in 47 hours played on my Cold Chrono, vs 76 deaths in 26 hours on my Spark SW. I won't lvl with lightning spells ever again. My bossing experience with them in the campaign was really bad before I put on Kitoko gloves.

- Anything related to bosses I prefer on Cold Chronomancer. Time Freeze is stress free cheese button, and aoe slow offers more chill gameplay. There are damage windows on some bosses between phases, and slowed boss is easier to dodge (I failed my 1st citadel on spark SW bc I couldn't react to boss attack before he phased).

- Anything related to clear is absolutely superior on SW.

- If we are talking about all-content build on ~50d or less, I'm on the Chrono side. Spark is more expensive to get good (for me).

- If we are talking about the endgame hybrid build, I prefer Chronomancer. CoC is more reliable than CoS, and AoE slow is really good defensive layer. I feel better on 6k mana Chrono, than 6.3k SW with 1k regen. Clear/bossing is good on both.

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So, the biggest problem of our build is... going past the medium-budget build w/Snakepit. There are no upgrades besides a major switch.



Monik390, Good afternoon, please tell me how you managed to insert the stone " Heightened curse"? I don't have the spirit.(I have 362 sp).
Last edited by Zibyte#4043 on Feb 16, 2025, 11:44:47 AM
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Zibyte#4043 wrote:


Monik390, Good afternoon, please tell me how you managed to insert the stone " Heightened curse"? I don't have the spirit.(I have 362 sp).


I have Blasphemy, Archmage, Clarity, CoC on the 1st weapon set.
352 spirit reserved.

Blink on the second weapon set, I don't use it much.

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