[0.2] Cold Chronomancer Megathread. Let's see how we can survive this.

Gems:

Frost Bomb: Spell Echo - Magnified - Considered Casting.
Frost Wall: Spell Cascade - Icicle.
Blashphemy: Hypothermia - Ritualistic Curse.
Mana Tempest: Premeditation - Inspiration.
Comet: Concentrated Effect - Unleash.

It seems, it isn't worth using Comet tho. Better to put another bomb/wall.

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Edit: latest update post with passive tree: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3592843/page/152#p26039164

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Casia#1093 wrote:

So I jumped on my standard chronomancer. I wanted to test something.

Frostbolt+32% chance for +2 projectiles.
And unleash.

first off, I didn't quite understand how unleash worked. the CD is on unleash, not the skill its buffing.

SO I can be there spamming frostbolt, hit unleash, instantly spam 3 frostbolts, and then keep spamming frost bolt without interruption.
its Unleash that goes on CD, not Frostbolt.

also the database tooltip was backwards.
a level 19 unleash is 720% of repeated skills cast time is added, not 9s. it does get better with level, not worse.

my .48s frost bolt gives it a 2.5s CD. with my 22%cdr. which can be skipped with now and again,etc.


Unleash is insanely good. This would be bonkers with snakepit.
Crazy good with eye of winter.
fireball, arc as noted.

again, also adding 15% more damage, and cull to those casts.


And, its not like Unleash is locked to one skill. its an independent skill. you activate it, the can cast whatever spell you want. so you can be unleashing frost bolt in maps, and then unleashing comets against bosses.

got to look into the "gain x on cull" supports now. theres frenzy charges, right?

Ok, a bit more on this.

Freezing shards costs zero mana.

lvl15 blue staff I bought to test...
.9s cast time. 1.11 casts per second. 233 damage per use. 5 shards.
about 5.2s CD on unleash.
4.7casts. 1101 damage.

Unleashed shards would be 233x.1.15=268x3=804
3.4 regular casts for 862 over that 5.2s.
=1666 damage.
a 51% dps increase.

.48s frost bolt.
with about 2.5s cd?
about 5 casts.
993 damage per use. x5
4965 damage.

empowered=1142x3=3425
x4 =3972
=7397
82% dps increase?

math on these may not be perfect. but you can see, spamming unleash on a "regular" fast cast skill is a massive dps increase. and as noted, the Effects CULL will have is also very powerful.
the dps skill you will probably want, "mobility" so you can move while casting.

Freezing shards not costing mana is huge. Chain or pierce, faster cast, 15% more when over 90% mana. cull, faster casts, and chain/peirce clear should be solid. then on bosses. timestop, unleashed shotgun. with built in bonus freeze, into coc comets.


Unleash+frost nova+spell echo+astral projection.
I think its casting 4 times. unleashx3+1 echo. so, echo probably not worth it.

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monik390#5560 wrote:

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Casia#1093 wrote:

Unleash is insanely good.

If I didn't go with Crest of Ardura bomb/wall approach, i'd run with it for sure.

It is good for sure. But not as good as I was expecting it to be. I thought it would have a better synergy with unleash support and add seals on top (make 2+2=4 seals), but it doesn't work this way, so I got a bit disappointed.

unleash support is meh at best, and it "working" together would not have been useful. "50% less damage"

absolutely better without it.
culling spark. culling arc.

This is absolutely stronger then stormweaver arcane surge effect.
I will come out and say, Chronomancer is the strongest spellcaster with Unleash I believe.

if we keep to a shorter CD/cast skill, we don't need timesnap either. unleash, now and again, time rift, time stop.

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monik390#5560 wrote:

Gems:


It seems, it isn't worth using Comet tho. Better to put another bomb/wall.

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Edit: latest update post with passive tree: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3592843/page/152#p26039164

They bonked Comet a bit which is kinda annoying to behonest. But I still gonna try to make old setup to move further.

I did like hybrid act1+2 (god act1 was absolute dogweewee and kaka experience)
Contagion+Essence drain and Frost Bombs.
I was lucky to find LV9 skill gem in Dreadnought so I ditched Chaos Skills, to full freeze setup. Hypothermia, Frost Walls (cooldown didnt that much bothering to be honest), Ice Nova and Frost Bolts (thing got buffs btw weee). I have a problem to blow my walls (again) but at least I have more reassurance on defense side. It pretty much works as I expected. Which means Jamanra got clapped and spammed with Now and Again Frostbombing xDDDD

Gonna continue Act 3 tomorrow. If the thing will go well I'm definitely start ramping up the overall pace.

They didn't touched Maligaro Gloves btw. But overall I feel it will be impossible to reach the same power I had in 0.1 in endgame. Need to check what uniques can do the job aswell

But first I need to survive that damn campaign

Meanwhile, i switched at lvl 52 to Temporal Chains and got Apex of the Moment (Trial of Chaos right after hitting lvl 52):

Passive tree (lvl 52):



I sacrificed some damage for it, but the general experience became better.

Nerf of the Presense range is huge tho, definitely noticeable.

P.s. i will refund Monk area a bit later, for +1 Cold and crit at the top.

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Gems:

Frost Bomb: Spell Echo - Magnified - Considered Casting.
Frost Wall: Spell Cascade - Icicle - Ingenuity.
Blashphemy: Temporal Chains - Ritualistic Curse.
Mana Tempest: Premeditation - Inspiration.
Ice Nova: Glaciation - Unleash.
Hypothermia: Expanse - Heightened Curse.

I stopped using the Comet for now, not worth using at all. Put Ice Nova once again.

So, I have really good CC once again. Here we go =)

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default_mp3#9394 wrote:

But first I need to survive that damn campaign

I'm doing really well right now =) Keep going.

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Casia#1093 wrote:

unleash support is meh at best, and it "working" together would not have been useful. "50% less damage"

absolutely better without it.
culling spark. culling arc.

This is absolutely stronger then stormweaver arcane surge effect.
I will come out and say, Chronomancer is the strongest spellcaster with Unleash I believe.

if we keep to a shorter CD/cast skill, we don't need timesnap either. unleash, now and again, time rift, time stop.

I didn't have any idea about using it with the spammable skills. Used it with Nova and Freezing Shards before switching to Now and Again. No comments about Freezing Shards, you got it right.

About Nova + unleash support. It works like 2+2, first cast spend Unleash skill seals, second cast spend support seals. 50% less damage while reoccurring, but there is no penalty for damage when seals are full.
So its 2 casts with unleash on a full power before damage affected by reoccurring of seals.

Unleash support isn't used for spammable skills, it's better to think about it as a thing that adds CD.

So, it is actually quite good if we are talking about conditional timing for nukes - like Freeze or Mana Tempest.

Anyway, the problem with the Unleash skill - it requires one more button T_T.

I do consider testing it instead of Apex of the Moment later, if I'm not up to spend 3 passive points for Presense range.

Over the last 16 hours, i've ran through acts 2 + 3 normal to act 1 cruel. I only used frost bomb and frost walls and OH WOW was this so strong. these 2 skills alone carried me through those acts and will probs do the same for act 2 and 3 cruel. My only issue is the damage from frost walls? It seems frost walls only use is to get the boss/enemies frozen. I know when I used frost walls with bone cage in coc it did a huge explosion. any chance this will still work but with fire ball? Theres only so much the frost bomb can do and at some point its damage is gonna plateau.

I've also found out that there is a specific unique that apparently is usable in sync with a 200 mana support gem so you can do an endgame mana stacker with eldritch battery which in turn does an insane amount of damage. apparently there might be a boss helmet that might be that unique? I think my other peeps from my 6 man are gonna figure it out but just a suggestion if this giga helm was to be in the game.

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monik390#5560 wrote:

I stopped using the Comet for now, not worth using at all. Put Ice Nova once again.

So, I have really good CC once again. Here we go =)

So you think it's not worth messing with CoF/CoCrit later on?
Are we still gunning Omen Spectre or just with Focus this time?

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TestaTTV#9694 wrote:

Over the last 16 hours, i've ran through acts 2 + 3 normal to act 1 cruel. I only used frost bomb and frost walls and OH WOW was this so strong. these 2 skills alone carried me through those acts and will probs do the same for act 2 and 3 cruel. My only issue is the damage from frost walls? It seems frost walls only use is to get the boss/enemies frozen. I know when I used frost walls with bone cage in coc it did a huge explosion. any chance this will still work but with fire ball? Theres only so much the frost bomb can do and at some point its damage is gonna plateau.

I've also found out that there is a specific unique that apparently is usable in sync with a 200 mana support gem so you can do an endgame mana stacker with eldritch battery which in turn does an insane amount of damage. apparently there might be a boss helmet that might be that unique? I think my other peeps from my 6 man are gonna figure it out but just a suggestion if this giga helm was to be in the game.

We scaled AoE previously, until Frost Wall overlaps and shotgun. It becomes very strong skill when most of icicle explosions hit 1 target.
It also does contact damage on some targets, and does most of your bossing damage on big asses, like Doryani second phase.

For reference, about ~103% increased AoE (Roil+Reverberation wheels) and Magnified support will make massive difference.

My entire mid-game build was about exploding Walls in different ways to make that happen.

So yeah, Frost Wall was my main skill =)

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default_mp3#9394 wrote:

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monik390#5560 wrote:

I stopped using the Comet for now, not worth using at all. Put Ice Nova once again.

So, I have really good CC once again. Here we go =)

So you think it's not worth messing with CoF/CoCrit later on?
Are we still gunning Omen Spectre or just with Focus this time?

Nah, I was talking about self-casting comet.

In general, the approach should be the same. We just need to figure out some things how to make it work.

We have planner early-mid game without nerfed "The Everlasting Gaze amulet"?

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winrasus#0069 wrote:

We have planner early-mid game without nerfed "The Everlasting Gaze amulet"?

Any amulet that provides mana regen + mana on kill should be fine?

monik390 the state of Archmage btw? It's dead dead? I mean if it's still viable to chug whopping 100 spirit for it

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default_mp3#9394 wrote:

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winrasus#0069 wrote:

We have planner early-mid game without nerfed "The Everlasting Gaze amulet"?

Any amulet that provides mana regen + mana on kill should be fine?

monik390 the state of Archmage btw? It's dead dead? I mean if it's still viable to chug whopping 100 spirit for it

I'm at cruel atm, not sure about the endgame stuff.

I'm not good at planning and theory, always do my things on practice by trial and error.

It will take way more time to get there this league for me, I have very limited playtime starting tomorrow (1-2h per day at most) and definitely fall behind.

Feel free to check poe.ninja for reference from other people:

https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn?class=Chronomancer

Current highest lvl Cold Chrono is 87: https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn/character/Felonie51-0925/FeloStopjaifroid?i=2&search=class%3DChronomancer

And they run a variation of the default build with CoC/CoF and Archmage. No Blasphemy.