Where are my pathfinders at?

so if poison scales off the initial hit does that mean deadly poison is a dps decrease since it makes the hit do 25% less damage? seems like a great design for like the only tier 3 poison support.
poison pathfinder. 1 ascendancy. level 36.

Leveling early poison sucks so bad. I dont care what anyone thinks anymore. ive tried every which way to make this not feel like dogwater post gas arrow nerf and I just cant stick it. Cant manage to get a spirit gem to drop to try SRS with it. Cant afford the unique gloves. It takes so long to kill any white pack. I stack 4 poisons and have to reapply them 2 or 3 times to kill a white pack.

i have a bow that does about as high of damage as I can find at this level crafted or not so i cant really up my physical DPS any further. Of course I cant do a big respec because lmao respecs cost a lot of gold. Jonathan Rogers over here telling people to spend their currency to craft, but then making the currency so damned rare you hoard what you get so you can buy scraps off trade.

Getting gaslit by people in end game who cleared the campaign pre nerf, while they clear early maps with ease doesnt help. This gas cloud nerf was warranted im sure, but damn could they have done it in a more nuanced way? Early leveling pre cruel has been an absolute slog all the way through, and for the few hours i got pre-nerf it finally felt amazing. the night after i found that interaction GGG nerfed it into the ground. It might still function well in endgame but during campaign leveling it sucks so bad when you are on a 3 link.

the nail in the coffin was starting a new character (sorceress) and experiencing just how easy going spark was compared to poisonburst arrow > gas arrow.

TLDR: It might be great in early endgame, but poison builds absolutely suck leveling through the campaign now and im tired of pretending like they dont. Its not fun.

Edit: because i know im gonna get roasted for this post, here is my tree
https://imgur.com/a/eEZoHyv feel free to critique or add suggestions. im at my witts end with this damn build
Last edited by Ddg#7810 on Dec 13, 2024, 12:28:26 AM
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Last edited by Wilmots#7633 on Dec 13, 2024, 4:18:14 AM
Poison is for sure not the best starter, especially at round lvl 30.

From looking at your tree:
You should have started with the Prjojectile DMG nodes. Very lategame they are probably not ideal, but they are for a long time. There is iirc also a Physical-DMG cluster near the starting Area, that can also help.

You seem to skill Poison Chance but you should +Poison Magnitude Nodes. Poison Magnitutde is how we scale our damage outside the initial hit. Poison Chance is for when you use spells that don't naturally Poison.

To the south there is also a Poison cluster that helps very much (making Poisons deal damage faster is huge), but I also didn't have that at your point.


Have you tried Gas-Arrow with Corrosion/Explosion on Armor break and Toxic Growth (your actual damage)? That basically carried me from Act 3 to Maps. Add in some Rain of Arrows for good measure.

Btw: Gas explosions still work, for builds that actually also invest into fire(skills). It's just not totally braindead anymore.
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Ddg#7810 wrote:
poison pathfinder. 1 ascendancy. level 36.

Leveling early poison sucks so bad. I dont care what anyone thinks anymore. ive tried every which way to make this not feel like dogwater post gas arrow nerf and I just cant stick it. Cant manage to get a spirit gem to drop to try SRS with it. Cant afford the unique gloves. It takes so long to kill any white pack. I stack 4 poisons and have to reapply them 2 or 3 times to kill a white pack.

i have a bow that does about as high of damage as I can find at this level crafted or not so i cant really up my physical DPS any further. Of course I cant do a big respec because lmao respecs cost a lot of gold. Jonathan Rogers over here telling people to spend their currency to craft, but then making the currency so damned rare you hoard what you get so you can buy scraps off trade.

Getting gaslit by people in end game who cleared the campaign pre nerf, while they clear early maps with ease doesnt help. This gas cloud nerf was warranted im sure, but damn could they have done it in a more nuanced way? Early leveling pre cruel has been an absolute slog all the way through, and for the few hours i got pre-nerf it finally felt amazing. the night after i found that interaction GGG nerfed it into the ground. It might still function well in endgame but during campaign leveling it sucks so bad when you are on a 3 link.

the nail in the coffin was starting a new character (sorceress) and experiencing just how easy going spark was compared to poisonburst arrow > gas arrow.

TLDR: It might be great in early endgame, but poison builds absolutely suck leveling through the campaign now and im tired of pretending like they dont. Its not fun.

Edit: because i know im gonna get roasted for this post, here is my tree
https://imgur.com/a/eEZoHyv feel free to critique or add suggestions. im at my witts end with this damn build


I'm finding it pretty difficult myself. Feel like I've been grinding for so long, and every fight is me back pedaling which is getting old. You know how this goes though, find one good item and it changes a lot. I'm still in act two though and its slow going.
For anyone struggling early, unfortunately I think the reality is you need to go poison arrow/flame wall until you get into your later passive tree and/or ascendancy to where your poison actually starts stacking a lot.


By the time poison flame starts to fall off, you should be at a point where you can start swapping to fully poison. The nice thing about the flame build is you essentially go the same spec as you would for full poison, with the only detour is going down to take more projectile damage nodes at the beginning of the tree(almost beginning)
Is anyone else running a Poisonburst build? I just completed Act 3 with it, and have been having a lot of fun. I also haven't seen much discussion regarding this skill on here.
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Is anyone else running a Poisonburst build? I just completed Act 3 with it, and have been having a lot of fun. I also haven't seen much discussion regarding this skill on here.


probably because it was so outclassed by gas arrow. now it actually seems like one of the better skills for single stack poison builds
In terms of itemization for the poison build, what are the go to's besides weapon slot to bolster our dps?

Gloves - 2 options, either snakebite or plaguefinger.
Belt - Ideally headhunter, but yeah 600>800 ex in 2 days :(
Amulet - +1 proj neck
Rings - ??
Quiver - +2 proj and phy dmg.

Is the above correct? If not, what would I ideally need to change, and with that what type of quiver would be the ideal best, as I'm not finding a lot on offer that would boost what I have currently.
I'm having a great time on poison pathfinder. Leveling was really smooth for me but I had semi-twink gear stashed from previous characters so... Never intentionally used the gas explosions, purely poison.

Currently level 85, blasting t13 maps, working on unlocking atlas passives before moving to t14. Normals/magics/rares die in a few seconds, bosses die really quickly too. Some close calls in some maps with 2200 life, 2600 armour and 6600 evasion, capped ele res and 38.2% move speed. Very rarely deaths though. Only unique I'm using is Snakebite. Although I'm considering just using rare gloves with flat phys and defensive stats.

In terms of passives, it's just poison/ailment nodes, and generic stuff like proj damage/quiver effect/evasion/ms. I also went to the southern starting area for some armour, bigger AoE, life regen, less dmg taken from crits etc. So I'm dex/str. I think dex/int might be interesting aswell for ghost shrouds, maybe couple witch skills etc.

Oh, I also picked almost every MS node. I have a weird "38.2%" movement speed with only 30% on boots. And I'm also using the Running Assault ascendancy node, feels so smooth. Locked out of 4th ascendancy because my trial with amazing boons is stuck on 4th floor due to some terrain generator error crashing me to login when I try to continue.

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