Are ascendancies mandatory for endgame?

I picked Witch for my first character because I like the chaos/curses/minions gameplay. I got now to the first ascendancy and I don't like either option.

Blood Mage sounds very risky and Infernalist means I need to spec into elemental damage.

Will I be able to progress through the game (endgame) without an ascendancy?
Last bumped on Dec 22, 2024, 4:10:09 PM
Ascendancies usually provide a huge spike in Damage and Survivability for classes. I'm sure u can play endgame without one, but it's not advised and u will struggle eventually.
Last edited by Sadaukar#2191 on Dec 21, 2024, 1:27:50 PM
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Sadaukar#2191 wrote:
Ascendancies usually provide a huge spike in Damage and Survivability for classes. I'm sure u can play endgame without one, but it's not advised and u will struggle eventually.


How bad can it get? Where do you think I might encounter a roadblock?
That's very hard to say and depends on each build specifically. I'd assume the campagin is fine, but like I said u might even struggle there.
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Sadaukar#2191 wrote:
That's very hard to say and depends on each build specifically. I'd assume the campagin is fine, but like I said u might even struggle there.


Oh well, I'll try it anyway. Both ascendancies look to me like getting crippled on purpose, or at the very least unfun gameplay.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Last edited by Praefator#6109 on Dec 21, 2024, 1:41:41 PM
Good luck in ur endevour. Hey if anything, it's some sort of testing aswell :D
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Sadaukar#2191 wrote:
That's very hard to say and depends on each build specifically. I'd assume the campagin is fine, but like I said u might even struggle there.


Oh well, I'll try it anyway. Both ascendancies look to me like getting crippled on purpose, or at the very least unfun gameplay.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.


I got to 82 before doing 3rd ascendancy with no problems, and to 89 with still no 4th ascendancy.

In their current form, the ascendancies are 100% optional unless you're going for pinnacle content, and I'm not even sure they're essential for that. Unlike POE1, they're nowhere near as crucial for progression.
You could easily get to T15 maps without any ascendency pts.

When you reach late/real endgame where you have 8-12 mod maps instead of just alch and go t15's then ya, ascendency is going to be pretty much needed in most cases.
Hard disagree, I'm juicing my maps as far as they'll go with only 3 of 4 trials completed.
6 points is a lot different than 0 points kid.

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