We NEED to talk about SSF.

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Lonnie455Rich#2087 wrote:

Has anyone here praising poe2 ssf actually played ssf in poe1?

Poe1 ssf is a masterpiece. Poe2 ssf is not fun. Although poe2 in trade is boring too so maybe its just a fundamental issue completely.

For softcore Poe1 and 2 trade is trash for both, it is one of the most complained about things in the entire game. In poe1 hctrade is pretty awesome, havent played hctrade in poe2 though so idk there.

There are constantly people begging for an auction house because trade is so bad.

People saying the game sucks in ssf aren't asking for better drops for ssf necessarily. Ssf is just not fun right now. Sure you can get to t15s and grind away, but why. What are you working towards in this game right now. You have to luck into everything. There is no amount of game knowledge you can have that will make your gear any better than the next guy. Its all time/rng. This is a concept from really old games that we have evolved from in poe1 over the years.

Who is out there praising diablo 2 crafting? Because poe2 crafting is more like diablo 2 crafting than it is poe. It just has a bunch of extra steps.

Its also really annoying to see mechanics like Aisling and veiled orbs/harvest crafting/etc gutted because of sctrade tft people.

The game would be a lot better off if ssf was the only mode and then the game was balanced around ssf.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

I dunno ssf seems fine for me

First campaign play through total

excludes trades/shards

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luizdoc#0279 wrote:

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Lonnie455Rich#2087 wrote:

Has anyone here praising poe2 ssf actually played ssf in poe1?

Poe1 ssf is a masterpiece. Poe2 ssf is not fun. Although poe2 in trade is boring too so maybe its just a fundamental issue completely.

For softcore Poe1 and 2 trade is trash for both, it is one of the most complained about things in the entire game. In poe1 hctrade is pretty awesome, havent played hctrade in poe2 though so idk there.

There are constantly people begging for an auction house because trade is so bad.

People saying the game sucks in ssf aren't asking for better drops for ssf necessarily. Ssf is just not fun right now. Sure you can get to t15s and grind away, but why. What are you working towards in this game right now. You have to luck into everything. There is no amount of game knowledge you can have that will make your gear any better than the next guy. Its all time/rng. This is a concept from really old games that we have evolved from in poe1 over the years.

Who is out there praising diablo 2 crafting? Because poe2 crafting is more like diablo 2 crafting than it is poe. It just has a bunch of extra steps.

Its also really annoying to see mechanics like Aisling and veiled orbs/harvest crafting/etc gutted because of sctrade tft people.

The game would be a lot better off if ssf was the only mode and then the game was balanced around ssf.

That's it, I hope the devs read this discussion, there's so many good points here that could be useful to improve SSF, like yours.

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IIIRAZORIII#0788 wrote:

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

I dunno ssf seems fine for me

First campaign play through total

excludes trades/shards

what app are you using to track your currency drops ?

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Septile#3881 wrote:

SSF is fine. I play it in PoE 1 and PoE 2. You can actually reliably get good gear if you actually learn the game. Fracturing orbs in PoE 2 are surprisingly plentiful and incredibly powerful.

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Septile#3881 wrote:

SSF is fine. I play it in PoE 1 and PoE 2. You can actually reliably get good gear if you actually learn the game. Fracturing orbs in PoE 2 are surprisingly plentiful and incredibly powerful.

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Slogger#1100 wrote:

I 100% agree with this post, and honestly, I’d go even further, SSF should be the default way to play the game, not trade-based multiplayer progression. Just look at what’s happening with LE right now: it’s thriving, and the VAST majority of players are in SSF. Why? Because LE actually respects your time. It has a solid crafting system, exponential progression, and loot that actually drops with value.

Meanwhile, GGG is completely missing the mark by anchoring core progression around trade. That system is flooded with toxic players, bots, and RMT trash, it’s basically a pay-to-win economy disguised as “player interaction.”

The numbers don’t lie, just check the Steam Charts right now. People are waking up and leaving this game, migrating to other games.

On twitch right now is 180k (LE) viewers vs 7k (PoE 2). It's actually sad, only Ben was left to stream this boring league that don't respect your time.