Locking a large portion of map juicing behind Arbiter

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MaxW81#9965 wrote:

The system sounds good until you are the guy with HORRIBLE citadel finding luck ^^
PoE has the progression better set up, no bullshit RNG steps. At worst I have to reroll a UE fragment with harvest.

And yes, I have him done. But I died 20 times. because my buil is ot good enough for endgame bosses yed. But I absolutely need teh mapping huice since my char is a mapper.

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Lonnie455Rich#2087 wrote:

i just got to t14 maps and i have 6 citadels on my screen.

They buffed the citadel spawn rate significantly. Also i cant see how you would be done with a build by the time you got to t15 maps.

This shines light on another problem. Its too easy to get to high tier maps. Sometimes you just completely skip farming tiers of maps. like if you run a t1 and drop a t2 you might never run another t1. you can get lucky and skip like 10 tiers of real progression. Poe1 forced you to do at least 4-8 or so maps of each tier to get completion bonuses.

Now people think theyre basically done with the game before they even get to arbitor.

These problems are entirely fabricated in your own brain. They're not actual problems.

They're only problems because you don't have any real problems. Or as some would say, "first world problems"

You should be grateful that this is what you're complaining about and not something that is game breaking.

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SaiyanZ#3112 wrote:

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Lonnie455Rich#2087 wrote:

i just got to t14 maps and i have 6 citadels on my screen.

They buffed the citadel spawn rate significantly. Also i cant see how you would be done with a build by the time you got to t15 maps.

This shines light on another problem. Its too easy to get to high tier maps. Sometimes you just completely skip farming tiers of maps. like if you run a t1 and drop a t2 you might never run another t1. you can get lucky and skip like 10 tiers of real progression. Poe1 forced you to do at least 4-8 or so maps of each tier to get completion bonuses.

Now people think theyre basically done with the game before they even get to arbitor.

These problems are entirely fabricated in your own brain. They're not actual problems.

They're only problems because you don't have any real problems. Or as some would say, "first world problems"

You should be grateful that this is what you're complaining about and not something that is game breaking.

My character is lvl89 and all I did was clear two corrupted zones next to the start area. If you're in trade league and make a good build you can skip map tiers and level fast. I didn't brute force content I couldn't do. I ran a bunch of T7s, then T12s, before moving to T15s. My character only has one death, to a monkey slam oneshot.

So I've barely explored the world map and am almost done with the build. If I want to have a better mapping experience I'd have to stop playing the game and instead run T1 maps in a random direction until I find all the bosses. That's bad game design. I'm never going to find those bosses anytime soon by playing "naturally". Natural mapping to me is going and clearing good corrupted maps and then cleansing the rest and clearing those.

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Henide#3803 wrote:

This all feels like
"before you can do Mephisto runs for loot, you have to kill Uber Baal"
Very very backwards and odd. Probably just a quick filler they did because real endgame overhaul is in 0.5 (hopefully).


Voidstones in poe1 were a bit annoying too, but voidstones only increased your chances to drop higher tier maps (and thus tier17 maps), and lets be honest, was just a nice QoL because you didnt need to worry whether to pick or not pick up maps, all maps became good with all voidstones.
The only annoying voidstone was the final Maven one, screw that fight, screw it so damn much, other bosses were actually doable and fun achievement without needing to leave your employer.

Voidstones themselves did not affect loot drops in tier16 maps and you could grind for loot in your existing tier16's until you could get all the voidstones.

of course the meta was to rush the voidstones, because indirectly that yielded more currency because tier17 maps were valuable on the market.

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SaiyanZ#3112 wrote:

Having played the league, here's my feedback on the tablets. Locking rare tablets behind beating Arbiter doesn't feel good. It's a significant amount of juice and it's all mainly just buffs for more content and drops that you can't get until you beat Arbiter.

It feels like a chore you need to do by rushing T1 maps to find all the bosses you need to kill asap before you can enjoy juicing maps.

If you try to play normally by progressing map tiers and juicing along the way, like you normally would, it takes a lot longer to find the bosses. By the time you find the bosses and kill them you'll probably be like lvl95 and almost ready to quit the character/league.

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freudo#0225 wrote:

But something needs to be done so people enjoy just playing the game no matter what part of the game they're currently at; rather than setting their sights on hitting "max" level so they can "start the real game" and find out they don't even gorram like the game.