Improvements to the Fate of the Vaal League

cool and the rest of the endgame? no loot no fun.


#removeDD/DUMBEXPLOS
Imagine not touching abyss until 0.5, you can nerf whatever you want after. It was such a huge mistake, because ppl who farmed abyss pre-patch already farmed everything and dropped league, ppl who wasnt fast enough dropped too because there is nothing to do in the game, temple is a big untested joke. By not nerfing abyss right now ppl could ACTUALLY play longer, slower players would catch up and farm with time and still TRY some other builds/ interesting things with currency.

You guys do not think about consequences half step ahead at all. You just bricked and turned poe two into poe poo with your brutus brain nerf move
Last edited by GimmeZeLoot#1718 on Dec 18, 2025, 12:10:19 PM
Game is so “boring and small”. Unnecessary player punishment is not what makes any game good and poe2 has it a lot. No fun. Only boring.
Spoiler
And content for streamers 😏
Holy Kuduku show me the way!
Wyvern. At the next possible update please, please stop the loud voice saying "I am not ready"
Don't know if it is just a console problem but it is so annoying . It says it even after doing it. And if you do use the pounce or wing beat too soon then it is fine to either not respond or message but not this annoying voice
Yo! Great improvements! I'm pretty sure that vaal temple is in a playable state when 0.5 hits :^) !
Listed changes are not nearly enough.
The are few things that feels really mandatory that simply must be on that list or it will be wasted effort:

1) Each building phase before run must always have 2 free medallions: +1 level of room, and destabilization prevention. Reasoning: Some rooms reaching level 3 is a novelty. And ability to prevent destabilization of key point of pathing or very lucrative room will and will make each run a lot less frustrating.
2) Only path tiles that should spawn must be Crossroads. Period. Crossroads only. Having 1 damn tile missing to connect Key Room and Atziri and never getting fitting one in FOUR (4) Temple runs.. it's really BAD game design.
Then it will be somewhat enjoyable activity.
Last edited by Orphas#1550 on Dec 18, 2025, 12:44:17 PM
Hi everyone!

First of all, GGG please look at the game Tag that you are developing, it is Action RPG / Hack and Slash. As a non Streamer player, if i want to keep playing a game with these tags there should be something in return. That can be grinding for better items, killing bosses, chasing uniques or gambling my loot etc.
At the moment, none of them are enough or gives me satisfaction that i am looking for. Each map is like 5-10 exalts and that is it. The tier 5 items are mostly reduce requirements and not usable explicits. The crafting -> only change is removing the homenoggigigi omen (Super powerful, basically no RNG so removing is correct) but how are we gonna farm, craft or get those items that we want. And now with + abyss failure (this is just GGG fail, no Streamer or player, also by removing it you guys just destroyed the whole economy. Those you exploit this got rich and others are just sitting there with couple exalts :D ), people farmed 100+ divines and now they can just enjoy the game. Generally, people who work can play max 4-5 hours a day and a bit longer on the weekend. And if you give them couple exalts and maybe a divine from the map, they will eventually just give up and stop playing the season. Next season same + more nerf.

You guys should definitely look into the loots. This season i played probably over 30-35 hours. For example only 1 perfect jeweller's orb (how can i get to full link gem stones), 5 or 6 divines, couple hundred exalts etc.

SO what should a player do with these kind of loots? Try crafting? Try gamble? (which there is nothing compare to PoE1)? Search for cheap builds with absurd damage?


Sorry for the long post. But please do a brainstorming on this subject. Most people who plays ARPG wants to see loot bombs.

People should not be forced to find super strong but cheap builds or do party plays or find cases like abyss or previous ritual legendary tablet or dupe case on 0.1.

I believe 70-80% players are regular, non streamer players and they deserve to enjoy this game, especially after paying for the game and buying the supporter packs!


Kind Regards,
Chagi
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Imagine not touching abyss until 0.5, you can nerf whatever you want after. It was such a huge mistake, because ppl who farmed abyss pre-patch already farmed everything and dropped league, ppl who wasnt fast enough dropped too because there is nothing to do in the game, temple is a big untested joke. By not nerfing abyss right now ppl could ACTUALLY play longer, slower players would catch up and farm with time and still TRY some other builds/ interesting things with currency.

You guys do not think about consequences half step ahead at all. You just bricked and turned poe two into poe poo with your brutus brain nerf move

Even those 3 days before the nerf of the abyss brought down the economy and allowed no-life players/streamers like fubgun to get rich. What you're saying is absolute madness... Try playing on std where inflation is monstrous - this is what the league is heading towards as the currency becomes saturated.
Last edited by Mitrof4n#1008 on Dec 18, 2025, 12:51:45 PM
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Chagi#4455 wrote:
Hi everyone!

First of all, GGG please look at the game Tag that you are developing, it is Action RPG / Hack and Slash. As a non Streamer player, if i want to keep playing a game with these tags there should be something in return. That can be grinding for better items, killing bosses, chasing uniques or gambling my loot etc.
At the moment, none of them are enough or gives me satisfaction that i am looking for. Each map is like 5-10 exalts and that is it. The tier 5 items are mostly reduce requirements and not usable explicits. The crafting -> only change is removing the homenoggigigi omen (Super powerful, basically no RNG so removing is correct) but how are we gonna farm, craft or get those items that we want. And now with + abyss failure (this is just GGG fail, no Streamer or player, also by removing it you guys just destroyed the whole economy. Those you exploit this got rich and others are just sitting there with couple exalts :D ), people farmed 100+ divines and now they can just enjoy the game. Generally, people who work can play max 4-5 hours a day and a bit longer on the weekend. And if you give them couple exalts and maybe a divine from the map, they will eventually just give up and stop playing the season. Next season same + more nerf.

You guys should definitely look into the loots. This season i played probably over 30-35 hours. For example only 1 perfect jeweller's orb (how can i get to full link gem stones), 5 or 6 divines, couple hundred exalts etc.

SO what should a player do with these kind of loots? Try crafting? Try gamble? (which there is nothing compare to PoE1)? Search for cheap builds with absurd damage?


Sorry for the long post. But please do a brainstorming on this subject. Most people who plays ARPG wants to see loot bombs.

People should not be forced to find super strong but cheap builds or do party plays or find cases like abyss or previous ritual legendary tablet or dupe case on 0.1.

I believe 70-80% players are regular, non streamer players and they deserve to enjoy this game, especially after paying for the game and buying the supporter packs!


Kind Regards,
Chagi


Tourist, you just don’t get the Vision! Loot is for classic ARPGs. Neo-ARPGs don’t need loot, crafting benches, or druids with shapeshifting masteries!!!
Neo-ARPGs are all about the Vision. If you can’t feel it, move back.
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Mitrof4n#1008 wrote:
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Imagine not touching abyss until 0.5, you can nerf whatever you want after. It was such a huge mistake, because ppl who farmed abyss pre-patch already farmed everything and dropped league, ppl who wasnt fast enough dropped too because there is nothing to do in the game, temple is a big untested joke. By not nerfing abyss right now ppl could ACTUALLY play longer, slower players would catch up and farm with time and still TRY some other builds/ interesting things with currency.

You guys do not think about consequences half step ahead at all. You just bricked and turned poe two into poe poo with your brutus brain nerf move

Even those 3 days before the nerf of the abyss brought down the economy and allowed no-life players/streamers like fubgun to get rich. What you're saying is absolute madness... Try playing on std where inflation is monstrous - this is what the league is heading towards as the currency becomes saturated.


Affliction and 0.3 poe2 were one of the best leagues with longest playerbases when people really had currency/drops to play at highest level. Usual suspects quit after the first month but average andies/casuals had fun till the end.

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