T17s are gone from the game

I'm so happy the only purpose for T17s is uber boss fragments now, can't wait to run them for skill points with 0 modifiers once per league then sell em all on asynch trade after that lmao, I've always wanted to be able to scour these maps and now I can. And the map bosses will have less base hp because of the area being lvl83, so that's nice.
Lifelong NEET, loud and proud about it.
You still want mods on those maps cos they will scale the amount of uber fragments that drop. Uber fragments may actually become very expensive when "farming" strategies are dropping them completely.

Or feed them to kingsmarch mapper.
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Esubane#6099 wrote:
You still want mods on those maps cos they will scale the amount of uber fragments that drop. Uber fragments may actually become very expensive when "farming" strategies are dropping them completely.

Or feed them to kingsmarch mapper.


If you're farming them that is. I'm just gonna sell all of mine with asynch trade after I've gotten my skill points, literally no reason to do those maps. I could just do an easier eagon map on a nice layout with an easy boss instead of a nightmare map with a rippy boss.

And don't know how its gonna work feeding these to mappers, since the nightmare map itself is just a waystone, it isn't correlated to any specific t17, it just gives you access to all 5. So atlas runners would probably just get you completely random uber fragments, while running it yourself would let you target farm specific ones.
Lifelong NEET, loud and proud about it.
i mean, i won't miss T17, they were disastrous and made like half of the farming strategies not very viable in them because of their terrible corridory layouts.

Economy is a wild guess at this point cos so many things change in this patch. Chaos orb sinks are getting removed (kirac bench crafts and T17 rolling). They reduced the number of frags needed for an uber boss from 5 to 4 cos they propabyl anticipate those nightmare maps to be ran way less frequently than current T17s.

I would do them if i had a fast boss rusher build with strong single target dmg. Since we don't really care about juicing, we can just skip all mobs and go kill the boss for frags.
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the mods are f.. gone:

The following Map Modifiers can no longer roll:

Players and their Minions deal no Damage for 3 out of every 10 seconds.
Area contains Petrification Statues.
Players have reduced Action Speed for each time they've used a Skill Recently.
Players are Marked for Death after killing a Rare or Unique monster.
Rare and Unique Monsters remove Life, Mana and Energy Shield from Players or their Minions on Hit.
When a fifth Impale is inflicted on a Player, Impales are removed to Reflect their Physical Damage multiplied by their remaining Hits to that Player and their Allies within 1.8 metres.
Area has patches of Awakeners' Desolation.
Player Skills which Throw Traps throw fewer Traps.
Players' Minions have less Movement/Attack/Cast Speed.
Damage Players' Totems take from Hits is taken from their Summoner's Life instead.


Almost good. the actually 2 mods that I avoid because they suck is:

"Players and their Minions deal no Damage for 3 out of every 10 seconds." (gone)

And one that was not removed, the "grasping vines" ones.... Please, remove this as well!!! It is just bad and makes me reevaluate my life choices when in a map with this ;)
Exiles, pffff!
use frostblink and the vines arent that big of a deal.
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use frostblink and the vines arent that big of a deal.


Yes, they are. So much so, as I said, that it is the only one of two that I avoid. Not because I can´t do them, but because they are boring as hell.
Exiles, pffff!
I am very satisfied wit hthis great new patch but: For me the biggest problem with t17s is still there. Bossing should be bossing not farming t17s. Fragments should drop from normal Bosses and nowhere else. uber Boss related uniques should drop from the Uber Boss and nowhere else.

Anyway, not a big deal there is plenty of other thigs to do and to try out next league i assume.
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I am very satisfied wit hthis great new patch but: For me the biggest problem with t17s is still there. Bossing should be bossing not farming t17s. Fragments should drop from normal Bosses and nowhere else. uber Boss related uniques should drop from the Uber Boss and nowhere else.

Anyway, not a big deal there is plenty of other thigs to do and to try out next league i assume.


but normal bosses require mapping to access.

shaper / elder / sirius you need to do guardians which are boss maps like t17s.
maven you need to do maps and get splinters. guardians is also maps.
exarch eater you need to grind maps. a lot of maps.
ritual guy with jewel, well you need to do ritual - maps

it's still way better than the former system where you specced a keystone and the invitation was not worth to be done if your character can't do the uber variant. And few characters can. The difficulty step is very large.

Those t17 bosses are not pushovers and serve as a bridge between normal boss difficulty and uber boss difficulty.
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Toforto#2372 wrote:


Best patch ever, huuuuge W. Great to know that the feedback of players is being listened to.


Tofortu pre release: Best patch ever!

Tofortu week 1: Back to complaining about the juice from league mechanic killing him, and how only 0.1% of the player base could possible benefit from this insanely hard content.
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