No kirc mod and Nightmare maps remove chaos sinks?
" It matters because trade filters arent setup for something else being the standard. It matters because the perceived value is significantly less. Saying theres no gameplay downsides is just incorrect. Most people probably dont even alch scour to roll most maps already anyway, if u arent running t17s currently you are buying vaaled t16s or 16.5s usually. I dont see any downside really to keeping the nightmare maps chaos modifyable only. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF. |
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" Yes, perceived, community driven propoganda t17 mods and maps in general were a disaster on hc. People in ssf, especially hcssf are rolling their maps with either alch/scour or chaos orbs. You're projecting your game play. Not even all sctrade players are running vaaled t16s or t16.5s. That is a very small minority of degenerates that play like that. They just so happened to be the most vocal on the internet. GGG even admitted that MOST players in sctrade dont even interact with trade. |
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" I'm sure they were disaster in HC. I don't give 2 shits what people in SSF are doing, you use what you have. I'm projecting an observation not just by my own gameplay but many others in discord, streamers and other observations. You are really brining up GGG's comments from ages ago about trade? That cannot be correct anymore, not after instant trade, not after currency tab, ect. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF. |
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The thing is, people in ssf are playing poe.
People in trade league are playing poe + stock market simulator. The only metric in which you can judge how the quality of the GAME is, is in ssf. Because ssf actually requires you to play the game yourself. Not pay other people to play for you or rmt all of your gear/progress. Judging how the game is played based on behaviors in sctrade is like doing a study on a human that you see for 5 minutes out of the week. You assume they are doing what they are supposed to be doing to create a valid control group. This is why real meaningful races are done in hcssf. |
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" Then you clearly have no idea what game you are playing, trade is as much part of poe as killing monsters. It is literally designed this way. Neither ssf or hardcore are the "purist" way to play poe, whatever the fuck that even means btw. [Removed by Support]
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Trade is not poe. Poe is the game you play when you kill monsters. Trade is a consequence of the rarity of certain items and the difficulty of crafting items.
It has nothing to do with being "purist" It is quite literally what it is. Path of exile is a game where you kill monsters and progress a character through the endgame. Trading is just, trading. Last edited by Lonnie455Rich#2087 on Feb 28, 2026, 1:15:44 PM
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" Path of Exile is an online Action RPG set in the dark fantasy world of Wraeclast. It is designed around a strong online item economy, deep character customisation, competitive PvP and ladder races. The game is completely free and will never be "pay to win". @GGG Did u ever read main page? No matter what's ur opinion about poe and how u want to play it, the fact is poe made around sctrade/hc trade. Else is just optional choice nothing more than that. |
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That is marketing, of course it says that.
If you delete trade you still have poe. If you deleted poe can you still have trade? |
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" That is not true. you can filter by anything. Perceived value doesn't matter. Weird to say how I am incorrect yet not give even a single example of showing that. So yeah, there is no gameplay downside caused by less chaos sinks. And it's just not true that people aren't rolling T16.5's. Any strat that is using maven chisels does not run vaaled maps and people craft their own maps. There is no downside to keeping nightmare maps chaos only, but it's not the upside you think it is. With T17s no longer being the farming spot for most endgame strategies it is going have a negligible impact as a chaos sink. |
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chaos prices will drop to scour/alch value, and youll just go back to chaos spamming maps instead of scour/alch.
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