[Nemesis] HP EK Scion - Arctic Armor + EB + MoM - 5+ Auras

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raveownsyou wrote:

could you post your passives for lvl 81? thanks in advance

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABCGcRlhUgFm8XLxg8GYoajxzcHRQdqh6UIcMkPCepKPoppSpNLOktgy2oL28xnjWSOuE_J0WdRnFJUUp9SshN404qVcZV1lYtV-FaUlptW69k52egbqpvnnC7eqp_xoIegseDCYd2iEKI8Y9GkNaTJ5M6lwaa4Jtdm7WmV6cIp1yomqw_rFmsf7GQtAy18rfWuJO9J8HFwzrEospKz2XQ0NkT2wvbWdxX3Q3hiOdj6-7xdvJF8pf22vll-ej60vsJ_MX-Cv6P

Here you go.

Sorry for lack of activity lately, I'm in the middle of moving IRL so things have been pretty crazy for me lately!

So I just hit level 82 along with hitting level 19 on my EK + support gems. I've also updated my gear to what I consider "reasonably complete". Only need to upgrade my 5L to a 6L (too expensive right now) and possibly get an ES shield that has life on it.

I run 5 auras: Grace, Discipline, Hatred, Haste, and Clarity.
With auras up, my stats are 3.3k life, 2.3k mana, 12.9k armor, 10k DPS EK, and ~110/~50 iir/iiq on bear trap. No Enduring Cry + Molten Shell + CwDT because I haven't found the need to. I use Decoy Totem on all bosses and it hasn't failed me yet.

Gear
My passive tree has definitely deviated from the recommended build since being in Standard league lets me put more into DPS. My next few levels though will be focused on getting life nodes to take me up to 200% increased life.

Passive Tree
Screenshots
I basically feel like I can't die unless I'm not paying attention or it's due to desync.

So just for fun, I ran a level 18 Determination aura alongside Grace just to see how much armour I could get up to.

With all the aura buffs and Inner Force in my passive tree, Determination gives (49% * 1.94) = 95.06% MORE armour. This boosts me from 12.9k armour to 25.1k armour.

Some math similar to the MoM math in the OP

My math shows that Determination vs MoM can be very similar in terms of survival. The benefit of MoM is entirely dependent on how much unreserved mana you would have if you didn't run Determination. The more you have unreserved, the better you are at taking large hits. For me, I'd only have about 550 unreserved so I would actually be taking about the same damage to life with MoM as with Determination.

Someone check my math to make sure I didn't screw it up somewhere. Note, I didn't subtract the damage absorbed by Arctic Armour in either case. In that scenario, I believe the gap between MoM & Determination will grow just a little in favour of MoM.

However, you save 1 passive point taking the 2 extra aura effect nodes (top-left beside Sovereignty) over the 3 needed to reach MoM. You can get yourself an extra life node in this case that will lessen the gap between MoM & Determination.

Hm. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong..

I'm lvl 76 atm and can only run 3x 60% auras + clarity (currently running haste, hatred, discipline and clarity) mainly cause im farming piety and not doing maps (I change haste to grace when I do maps)

Either way, I have all the mana reduced nodes and alphas (my gems are down to roughly 22-23% reserved on a 60%)

1,8k unbuffed mana and 2829 buffed with discipline.

if i run my 4th aura (grace) then i have roughly 80 mana left.
my mana regen is at 200 so supporting EK+lvl 15 AA isnt an issue atm (only runnin 5l and iwll do so fo ra long time ahead)

is it just a matter of bad gear? do i need more managear or?

only items i get ES from are atm:

With those mana numbers, you shouldn't be having any troubles...

Are you linking all your auras to a Reduced Mana gem? 4 auras at 22% each would leave you with ~340 mana unreserved. A Clarity linked with RM shouldn't take more than 200 even at Level 20 + 2 from Alpha's Howl. In fact, my level 20 Clarity reserves 162 mana when linked with a level 19 RM.

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MangoPirate wrote:

With those mana numbers, you shouldn't be having any troubles...

Are you linking all your auras to a Reduced Mana gem? 4 auras at 22% each would leave you with ~340 mana unreserved. A Clarity linked with RM shouldn't take more than 200 even at Level 20 + 2 from Alpha's Howl. In fact, my level 20 Clarity reserves 162 mana when linked with a level 19 RM.

Yeah one reduced mana is a bit low level but not low enough to affect the mana #'s that much.
Here's how I run my gems: screenshot in spoiler (big pic)

Aura Math
Could be you're missing mana reservation passive nodes?

dont think so heres my tree

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGcMfRGWFSAW8xcvGDwZihqPHNwdFB2qHpQhwyQ8JjwnqSj6KaUqTSzpLYMtqC9vL50xnjWSPydFnUZxSVFKfUrITeNOKlXWVi1X4VpSWm1br2TnZ6Buqm-ecLt6qn_GgKSCHoLHgwmHdo9GkNaTJ5M6lwaa4Jtdm7Wio6ZXpwinXKiarD-sWax_sZC0DLXyt9a4k70nwfPDOsSiykrZE9sL21ncV90N4Yjr7vKX9tr5Zfno-tL7CfzF_o8=



is 112.6 mana even enough to spam EK and maintain AA lol

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ImoK wrote:

dont think so heres my tree

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGcMfRGWFSAW8xcvGDwZihqPHNwdFB2qHpQhwyQ8JjwnqSj6KaUqTSzpLYMtqC9vL50xnjWSPydFnUZxSVFKfUrITeNOKlXWVi1X4VpSWm1br2TnZ6Buqm-ecLt6qn_GgKSCHoLHgwmHdo9GkNaTJ5M6lwaa4Jtdm7Wio6ZXpwinXKiarD-sWax_sZC0DLXyt9a4k70nwfPDOsSiykrZE9sL21ncV90N4Yjr7vKX9tr5Zfno-tL7CfzF_o8=



is 112.6 mana even enough to spam EK and maintain AA lol

Not sure what's going on with your mana stats then since it seems like you have all the right nodes and links. Might just be your RM gems need those last few levels.

Any level of mana over what it takes to cast a single EK is potentially enough as long as your mana regen is greater than spamming EK over a second + mana drain of AA standing still.

Mana regen > (EK mana cost / cast time) + AA mana drain

The problem that comes up with being so close to EK's single use mana cost is not having enough EXCESS mana regen to bring you back up past EK's cost. You will have to stall for maybe tenths of a second for your mana pool to reach 90+ again to cast.

This is the problem I'm running into slightly with ~120 available mana. Even with 313 mana regen, my EK casts so fast (0.44s cast time @ 95 mana/cast) that after 4 or 5 casts, I stall for a tenth of a second to regen. Inner Force doesn't help with regards to AA's drain either. Fortunately, EK hits so hard that I don't need to spam unless it's against bosses or tanky rare/unique monsters. Even then, it's a pretty minor hit to my DPS since the stall is so short and if I reposition even a little, the problem is nonexistent.