Chaos damage and why it hurts the game in it's current form.

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Elynole wrote:
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bhavv wrote:


Where did I claim I wanted to be indestructible? I wish only to be able to gain more XP than I lose, be able to complete all the content, and be able to beat end game maps with a character specced entirely with DPS nodes.


My build would be considered glass cannon by some means. Up until last night, I hadn't taken CI. I have 1,500 es + life total, around 30% resists in merciless, and had taken no defensive nodes in Chaos Resistance. Still gained 5 levels last night to hit 63, in which it was pretty roll face. Why? Because of instead of thinking that the passive skill tree is the only way to build defenses I compromised to add defenses in my playstyles instead. I use curses like Enfeeble and Temporal Chains, keep auras up, and use minions.

You don't survive because your build doesn't compensate for the lack of defenses you do have.


1,500 HP =/= Glass Cannon.

600-800 HP = Glass Cannon (at level 65). You dont take HP nodes or any defensive stat on a 'Glass cannon'. In other games, I only take defensive stats AFTER my offensive / casting stats are MAXED (these games give you more than enough points to max DPS AND take defense on top). PoE doesnt give you that many points, or well, there are far too many passives that trying to max DPS means no HP / Defense.

Every point spent in a defensive node to me is a complete waste if there are still offensive nodes I can be taking.
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bhavv wrote:


1,500 HP =/= Glass Cannon.

600-800 HP = Glass Cannon (at level 65). You dont take HP nodes or any defensive stat on a 'Glass cannon'. In other games, I only take defensive stats AFTER my offensive / casting stats are MAXED (these games give you more than enough points to max DPS AND take defense on top). PoE doesnt give you that many points, or well, there are far too many passives that trying to max DPS means no HP / Defense.


Ok, well I'm done with this argument. You're arguing now that you should be able to have 600-800 HP, be a glass cannon, and not get face rolled in merciless? This is laughable, you could get one shot by Vaal in Normal with those defenses. lol.

It truly amazes me how out of touch some people are with building correctly.
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Elynole wrote:
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bhavv wrote:


1,500 HP =/= Glass Cannon.

600-800 HP = Glass Cannon (at level 65). You dont take HP nodes or any defensive stat on a 'Glass cannon'. In other games, I only take defensive stats AFTER my offensive / casting stats are MAXED (these games give you more than enough points to max DPS AND take defense on top). PoE doesnt give you that many points, or well, there are far too many passives that trying to max DPS means no HP / Defense.


Ok, well I'm done with this argument. You're arguing now that you should be able to have 600-800 HP, be a glass cannon, and not get face rolled in merciless? This is laughable, you could get one shot by Vaal in Normal with those defenses. lol.


Say hello to my 2000 evasion and 1600 ES as well.

HOWEVER, this game and its developers claim that you can take 100% offensive nodes and still be viable in the game. I may be out of touch with the current state of the game, but you and most other people are out of touch with how the game was intended to be.
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bhavv wrote:


Say hello to my 2000 evasion and 1600 ES as well.


So then you're running 2,100ish HP? ES acts the same as HP defensively. I'm confused. At any rate, your idea of playing the game is the exact opposite of what the game is balanced around currently. You're basically trying to change the whole balance of the game is what you're saying. Group up in parties if you want to just DO UBER DAMAGEZ. Otherwise, learn that max DPS is ignorant in this game.

You can be viable, you're just going to die a lot. and it seems like you have no idea of what curses/minions/totems/traps are to compensate for this defense without taking ONE PASSIVE NODE to have to use them. lol
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bhavv wrote:
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Elynole wrote:
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bhavv wrote:


1,500 HP =/= Glass Cannon.

600-800 HP = Glass Cannon (at level 65). You dont take HP nodes or any defensive stat on a 'Glass cannon'. In other games, I only take defensive stats AFTER my offensive / casting stats are MAXED (these games give you more than enough points to max DPS AND take defense on top). PoE doesnt give you that many points, or well, there are far too many passives that trying to max DPS means no HP / Defense.


Ok, well I'm done with this argument. You're arguing now that you should be able to have 600-800 HP, be a glass cannon, and not get face rolled in merciless? This is laughable, you could get one shot by Vaal in Normal with those defenses. lol.


Say hello to my 2000 evasion and 1600 ES as well.




1500 hp =/= glass cannon


600 hp + 2000 evade + 1600 es = glass cannon

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Elynole wrote:

It truly amazes me how out of touch some people are with building correctly.


Define 'correctly'. Why isnt DPS, more DPS, and nothing but DPS correct? And if it isnt correct, then why shouldnt it be?
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bhavv wrote:

Define 'correctly'. Why isnt DPS, more DPS, and nothing but DPS correct?


Because you're dying, so obviously you're doing it wrong. Thus, the opposite of correct.
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C2487233 wrote:


1500 hp =/= glass cannon


600 hp + 2000 evade + 1600 es = glass cannon

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Oh no, thats not my glass cannon build either, thats just my attempt at trying to make some kind of end game valid character.

My 'Glass cannon' cannot get through Cruel. The ES focuse shadow made it through merc, painfully.
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Elynole wrote:


Because you're dying, so obviously you're doing it wrong. Thus, the opposite of correct.


Omg, Elynole. I'm lol'ing at your posts. +1 x3
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bhavv wrote:

Oh no, thats not my glass cannon build either, thats just my attempt at trying to make some kind of end game valid character.

My 'Glass cannon' cannot get through Cruel. The ES focuse shadow made it through merc, painfully.


Basically, again as I've stated before...you're wanting to face tank with a glass cannon and win the game.

Please, tell me how YOU would go about balancing this that wouldn't make defensive characters absolutely OP on the other side of the spectrum?

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