free unlimited respec on passive skill (or a sandboxed Free Unlimited Respecs League)

Everything it needs is a feature to simulate a chars progress like with the skill tree planer on the web, but ingame and with the ability to check the resulting values on your char. (like the suggested sandbox feature)
and as far as I know and expect, something comparable to this will come.

a free respec would completely be against the goal of the game: to play it as long and often as possible. Once you reached everything possible in the game, you should be forced to redo in some, possible different, way.
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A full respec option would only benefit ppl who don't want to put forth the effort to develop a build.

I guess some ppl find copying somebody else and running around calling anyone who doesn't a noob. How's that for irony?

What happens is the best build, with possibly one alternative, surface. Then everybody HAS to use one of those builds or be at a disadvantage.

If you try to go ahead and play with another build you will constantly have to listen to ppl telling you how you should change this or that. Both helpful and sarcastic ppl.

They assume because you aren't exactly like everyone else you must not be very bright.

Sadly, they are right. With full respec options the way to go IS just like everybody else.









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The devs seem to think they can reach beyond a small hardcore niche by making the ability to respec a grind in its own right (the current system), and I think they're mistaken. Many people with jobs and families don't have the time nor inclination to do again and again and again and again and again and again (got the point?) the same low level content (I've got 50 hitpoints and a white weapon, yay!) just to be able to test another class (or even worse spec of the same class) 50 hours later. You know what, it's not worth it to me.

I just don't get all these people who want games to feel like work. My real job is demanding enough already, thank you very much. If you enjoy tedious timesinks then play hardcore on a Pentium computer with a molten steel buttblug for all I care, but don't force it on other players to jump through the same hoops. To all the people adamant to dictate how *other people can play*, well I don't see how your desired gameplay is more valid than mine. Don't want to respec? Then just don't. And it's relatively easy to code free respecs so that they can't be used to cheese past content (i.e. change to a high resistance spec for a single fight) with relatively short respec cooldowns.

I bet there's a bunch of people who can get interested in the mechanics this game offers but who are not going to sacrifice their first born just to maintain interest past the first character/spec. Use leagues if you have to cater to no-lifers whose self esteem relies on their ability to watch paint dry for entire days, but please reconsider respec scarcity as it won't lead to the sustained interest you expect from it - just the opposite.


Exactly this! PEOPLE, stop pretending that time investment equals skill! Any idiot can play 12h a day!

What's the problem in having a league that offers better respecs? You can still play the other "normal" leagues.

In my opinion we should be allowed to have a full respec once a week, so there can be experimentation and build diversity.

And since this is a F2P game, the very least that should be in the game is full respecs paid with real money.
Last edited by EternalEntity#2722 on Jan 20, 2013, 12:07:15 PM
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stkmro wrote:
what i mean is that many players want to have fun and try out infinite different builds of the 6 classes....

example, my witch clear up a dungeon with her wand and go to town. after that she decides to wield 2h maul, so she respecs all her points to resolute technique.

the next day, she decides to use a bow. then she goes to town and respecs all her points to iron grip and iron reflexes.

after that, she wants to use claw. she goes to town and respecs into soul raker 1/2/3.

and so on etc, etc, etc......

with the "free respecs league", players can have fun and play infinite builds using the same character. they don't have to start and level up all over again from lvl 1.


The reason we don't have full respec options is to prevent this scenario from happening.
With a respec once a week people would already be forced to think about the build they need and you wouldn't be able to change build according to the situation, you'd be stuck with the build for a week.
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This. +1
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Whats wrong with the systems as it is?
Just find/trade/buy enough Orb of Regred... so you can respec as much as you want...:)

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