Waystone Sustain

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LibraExAnima#1943 wrote:

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MujuraAburaya#4214 wrote:

Buying waystones? How? There's none in trade lol.

Doryani sells waystones up to T5. And as mentioned, boss maps are the most reliable way.

How do you know if it's a boss map?

Same thing for me. I feel progression blocked because I need T8 maps and not getting anything. Fully speced atlas for drops, map has 200+ drop chance and getting maybe 1 T4 drop from a T8 map. Following all advice and nothing is working for me. It feels like this is not intentional. Running maps with enemies that are 10 levels below mine just to hope for a better map drop I’ve made all of my map drops rare, ran specifically on bosses and just can’t sustain higher tier maps.

The shortage of Waystones is exactly like POE1 was before the developers had to throw in the towel and increase the drop rate. IIRC, the patch notes said the increased it more than 100%.

This is set this way on purpose because everyone would scream bloody murder if the drop rate was too high and the patch notes said "reduced waystone drop rate 20%" - they have to start low and increase it because of the player base.

I'm totally stuck because of the ridiculous low drop rate and also the ridiculous high death penalty - lag death in the early part of a map usually mean no loot at all.

Still, all of this is to allow them to provide buffs and nerf the rules over time to satisfy us. I'm seriously considering just playing alts until the waystone drop rate is fixed. There's no point in playing maps at all.

The problem here is that everyone is pointing to "boss maps". So to them I reply:

You do realize that Atlas is supposed to be randomly generated right?

That being said not all of us have boss maps every so often. I have full screens with 0 boss maps for example. Even when I manage to reach some, every boss up until this point ( currently trying to find t13 waystones to finish the quest ) that I've encountered has never dropped me more than 1-2 waystones which is nowhere near enough to continue on the same level and I always have to fall back to doing t10s as that's the most common drop for me at least and hope for the best.

I don't know where you're all getting the "4-5" waystones per boss as we're using the same Atlas passives and I have them all unlocked as well, but I believe that you're forgetting the rng part and for some it ain't that lucky.

So this is something that needs addressing on a base level as it's part of the overall progress of the game, not just an infinite grind mode.

I'd be more than happy to be grinding for waystones after my main quests are finished, not now because this is actively delaying my game progress.

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punahou#7038 wrote:

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LibraExAnima#1943 wrote:

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MujuraAburaya#4214 wrote:

Buying waystones? How? There's none in trade lol.

Doryani sells waystones up to T5. And as mentioned, boss maps are the most reliable way.

How do you know if it's a boss map?

Certain nodes on the atlas have an icon. On the top left of your atlas screen you can hover over the symbol to see a legend of what all the symbols mean.

lgtm

So what I seemed to find regarding this problem is the following.

I had no problem sustaining high tier maps until I chose the Atlas Nodes that increase the Tier of Waystones found. All of the sudden I was back to T1-T9 Waystones. Which was incredible frustrating. I choose them late so I felt the difference immediately.

Now during trials my waystone drops were fine. So today I decided to respec my Atlas nodes that increase the tier. And it seems to work fine again.

Not sure what happens here precisely, but somehow it seems that if your rate is too high you come out at the low end of the curve again.

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Baseexe#2237 wrote:

I do primarily T14-T16 and have specced all the nodes for higher tier waystones to drop. I don't now how this is calculated but from the nodes it should be 70%. I do transmute - augment - regal or alch every waystone and if they have bad waystone % i vaal them. However the waystones that drop are almost always T2-T9 especially after the latest patch. Feels more like 5% higher tier drops than 70%. Having to grind lower tiers or buying waystones from other players sucks.

skill issue.

I have so many t15's i wish someone would bulk buy all of them

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saturninecult#7044 wrote:

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kamiknx#1162 wrote:

You're doing something wrong. I have half of a stash tab with T15 that I add more to it than I take from it.

Spec your atlas tree into waystones.

Kill bosses.

You know endgame is simple enough that people understand this, it doesn't help.

I'm almost thinking there something wrong with the random number generator and it's bricked for some characters/accounts. I'm running 70% MF and I barely even get exalted orbs out of t10+ maps. Everything specced in atlas and map drops are absolutely horrible, constantly dropping t4-5 map in t10+ and nothing else, not even from bosses.

+1. This is my exact thought after reading these days the forum

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kamiknx#1162 wrote:

lgtm

You know we don't care about your drops, do you?

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RKxZlcLUUF#5704 wrote:

skill issue.

I have so many t15's i wish someone would bulk buy all of them

Have you seen that guy playing? Or me? What's the skill issue cleaning Kamasa?

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You know we don't care about your drops, do you?

wtf do you mean? I have half of a stash tabs with T15, some T16, and another tab with failed T14s.

If I want I can fill multiple stash tabs with T15, I'll never run out.