Why POE2 is dying

As i said have you even palyed a caster? YOu need to stand still and cast 4 spells at once, you cannot hit and run like a merc or ranger.

merc is underpowered but you can just use dodge roll as long as you are not zdps and the fact that your amror sucks doesn't even matter. Stormweaver would get one shot all the time when casting mana tempest if the es pool would be half as much, because there is no option to hit and run.

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TheWroth#7505 wrote:

A top player that only play video games and nothing more gets 9k+ ES so you need to punish casual players that want to use ES? It makes no sense. I sacrificed a lot of points in other parts of my build to struggle to get 5k ES. Although armor and life needs a buff, to nerf energy shield will make players forgetting it and start to use life builds instead, as Life you can use potions, have a lot of more Recovery, with no "time waiting to start to regen it"

No the top builds with good gear get to like 15k+ es and can ignore boss one shot mechanics. I went with 9k as a more reasonable average number.

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

As i said have you even palyed a caster? YOu need to stand still and cast 4 spells at once, you cannot hit and run like a merc or ranger.

merc is underpowered but you can just use dodge roll as long as you are not zdps and the fact that your amror sucks doesn't even matter. Stormweaver would get one shot all the time when casting mana tempest if the es pool would be half as much, because there is no option to hit and run.

Now your just trying to muddy the discussion by changing the subject to something irrelevant. First off i play a caster, secondly caster gameplay vs melee gameplay vs whatever is irrelevant, thirdly are you seriously suggesting that casters should inherently have stronger defenses then a melee class?

Casters can use life/armor just like every1 else, they just all use es because its 4 times as good.

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Nyon#6673 wrote:

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

As i said have you even palyed a caster? YOu need to stand still and cast 4 spells at once, you cannot hit and run like a merc or ranger.

merc is underpowered but you can just use dodge roll as long as you are not zdps and the fact that your amror sucks doesn't even matter. Stormweaver would get one shot all the time when casting mana tempest if the es pool would be half as much, because there is no option to hit and run.

Now your just trying to muddy the discussion by changing the subject to something irrelevant. First off i play a caster, secondly caster gameplay vs melee gameplay vs whatever is irrelevant, thirdly are you seriously suggesting that casters should inherently have stronger defenses then a melee class?

Casters can use life/armor just like every1 else, they just all use es because its 4 times as good.

ok whatever dude, muddening the discussion sure...and you surely play a caster and actively want to get nerfed, yeah right buddy suuuuure

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AnimePillowCollector#2255 wrote:

Some death penalty is absolutely necessary for even the most dopamine-fried brains out there. So tired of hearing this death penalty whining. Zero understanding of human nature despite you all probably being like 35+ years old.

No, death penalty is not needed for a game to be fun. Dying itself already feels bad and is enough of a punishment. The game does not need to double-down and punish the player for literally no reason.

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eldheim#2436 wrote:

Disclaimer:

I already know a few elite GGG bootlickers will spam this comment section telling me I don't understand charts or numbers, that its "normal", or "everything is fine", or "play something else -stop whining".
Let them. It's all they do, all the time, and we can't stop it.

You know why you might keep getting those responses? There are multiple reasons but the big two are:
1) The numbers show the exact opposite of what you claim, and also prove that you do NOT know how to read charts and graphs and refuse to learn.

2) You even decided not to even provide whatever numerical data you are claiming because....it doesn't exist. Which is actually even worse than misrepresenting it.


I am not happy with the state of the game. I don't play anymore. But it most certainly is NOT dying at the moment. It WILL see a massive decrease in 3-4 weeks if there isn't a major content update though.

Using the collective "we" to try to appeal to a broader base and single out those who point out your mistakes doesn't make the original comment any less wrong or unfounded. You know who starts comments like that? Setting up the us vs. them BEFORE you even begin? People who are generally wrong and know they are wrong.

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

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Nyon#6673 wrote:

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

As i said have you even palyed a caster? YOu need to stand still and cast 4 spells at once, you cannot hit and run like a merc or ranger.

merc is underpowered but you can just use dodge roll as long as you are not zdps and the fact that your amror sucks doesn't even matter. Stormweaver would get one shot all the time when casting mana tempest if the es pool would be half as much, because there is no option to hit and run.

Now your just trying to muddy the discussion by changing the subject to something irrelevant. First off i play a caster, secondly caster gameplay vs melee gameplay vs whatever is irrelevant, thirdly are you seriously suggesting that casters should inherently have stronger defenses then a melee class?

Casters can use life/armor just like every1 else, they just all use es because its 4 times as good.

ok whatever dude, muddening the discussion sure...and you surely play a caster and actively want to get nerfed, yeah right buddy suuuuure

Yes some people want the game to be overall balanced and dont just talk nonsense to prevent themself from being nerfed, crazy I know.

I want to have more options to try different builds and item combos, not be forced to play es or feel like a monkey for playing something thats 4 times weaker

"buhu playing caster is so hard so i need 4 times more defenses then a melee class"
Wake up

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Nyon#6673 wrote:

Yes some people want the game to be overall balanced and dont just talk nonsense to prevent themself from being nerfed, crazy I know.

I want to have more options to try different builds and item combos, not be forced to play es or feel like a monkey for playing something thats 4 times weaker

"buhu playing caster is so hard so i need 4 times more defenses then a melee class"
Wake up

nah, you're the type of guy that just watches yt vids and streams and repeats what the content creator says, you don't need more options cause you don't play much yourself anyway.

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

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Nyon#6673 wrote:

Yes some people want the game to be overall balanced and dont just talk nonsense to prevent themself from being nerfed, crazy I know.

I want to have more options to try different builds and item combos, not be forced to play es or feel like a monkey for playing something thats 4 times weaker

"buhu playing caster is so hard so i need 4 times more defenses then a melee class"
Wake up

nah, you're the type of guy that just watches yt vids and streams and repeats what the content creator says, you don't need more options cause you don't play much yourself anyway.

Im sorry but are you actually arguing against the fact that es is better then life/armor by multitudes? Or are you just trolling?

If your being serious then it would be nice to see some form of an argument, examples or facts. Not just shovelling nonsense.

Theres been given several examples both here, and in videos made by people whos played the game for hundreds of hours that currently es is somewhere between 3 to 4 times as effective defense as armor/life.

And your stance is that es is fine.
Maybe you should elaborate with some factual information on why you think its ok for es to be 4 times stronger then life/armor?

But you wont because youve alredt revealed yourself with your comment.
You cant imagine someone else playing es talking about es needing a nerf, because you cant do that yourself. You abuse overpowered es so you will just shovel nonsense in a helpless attempt to keep it from being nerfed.

I guess coming from the guy who thinks casters need a defense advantage over melee we shouldnt be surprised

damn right ES is fine. It gives you a huge cushion against the bs the game throws at you, which is needed. Armor is not fine, Armor needs to be buffed big time. And it's not the fault of palyers that play ES builds(which is not abuse btw) that GGG decided to jsut remove all % life nodes from the tree, lmao