You're making an ARPG in 2025, but you're stuck in 1999

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Immoteph#2974 wrote:
I think I speak for everyone my age when I say:

"We're all stuck in 1999"

Welcome aboard, zoomer. Stay for just as long as you want. There's plenty of us to keep this great game alive.

If you want D4 concepts, then thankfully you have that to play too.
If you want deterministic crafting, then you have no clue what that does to replayability in general, just like all the rest.


If you want D2 concepts, then thankfully you have that to play too.

If you want deterministic crafting, then you have no clue what that does to replayability in general, just like all the rest.

No new league needed anymore if GGG keep deterministic crafting out.Replayability fixed.

I agree with you, and they could increase even more the replayability by not let people choose the character in the start, randomize it!, randomize order of the acts, randomize gems names, roll direction and the currency exchange, so many possibilities!


+1 OP
Haha, between the death penalty whining and this what a hilarious forum. Think you guys need to go back to Diablo4 or a mobile game. I heard they're making a new ARPG that wipes your ass for you, might be right up everyone's alley. No PvP, no death penalty, everything is best in slot already identified on the floor and you don't have to think or move even once!
IGN: MullaXul
Guys Lost Arc and D4 already exist.... Ton of other games besides them as well.

i see a lot of feedback by people who have no idea what makes a good game or a bad game. Who clearly want every game they can find to be the exact same soulless watered down dogshit. Literally identically shitty in every way to the last game you're already bored of because you ruined it.

The shallow 2025 games a lot of you guys want already exist, but instead of playing them you're here complaining that this game isn't shallow enough for you.

Gee I wonder why?
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
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Guys Lost Arc and D4 already exist.... Ton of other games besides them as well.

i see a lot of feedback by people who have no idea what makes a good game or a bad game. Who clearly want every game they can find to be the exact same soulless watered down dogshit. Literally identically shitty in every way to the last game you're already bored of because you ruined it.

The shallow 2025 games a lot of you guys want already exist, but instead of playing them you're here complaining that this game isn't shallow enough for you.

Gee I wonder why?



you're another person who offers nothing about the post just to say "d4 bad"

how is identifying or being able to hold less than 6 staffs make poe2 a deeper game?
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MullaXul#2277 wrote:
Haha, between the death penalty whining and this what a hilarious forum. Think you guys need to go back to Diablo4 or a mobile game. I heard they're making a new ARPG that wipes your ass for you, might be right up everyone's alley. No PvP, no death penalty, everything is best in slot already identified on the floor and you don't have to think or move even once!


Bottom line:

It's a PVE game. Anyone supporting gatekeeping of progress and/or content isn't thinking clearly or is trolling.

There is no "prestige" in playing a game, much less getting the "TOP LEVEL", lol. Who are you going to tell about it? There's no "pat yourself on the back" achievement.

I'm being facetious, but the bottom line is still the same.
Visit my Steam profile here: https://steamcommunity.com/id/TheBaconOverlord/
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MullaXul#2277 wrote:
Haha, between the death penalty whining and this what a hilarious forum. Think you guys need to go back to Diablo4 or a mobile game. I heard they're making a new ARPG that wipes your ass for you, might be right up everyone's alley. No PvP, no death penalty, everything is best in slot already identified on the floor and you don't have to think or move even once!


Bottom line:

It's a PVE game. Anyone supporting gatekeeping of progress and/or content isn't thinking clearly or is trolling.

There is no "prestige" in playing a game, much less getting the "TOP LEVEL", lol. Who are you going to tell about it? There's no "pat yourself on the back" achievement.

I'm being facetious, but the bottom line is still the same.


Yep, this game isn't an e-sport.
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If you want D2 concepts, then thankfully you have that to play too.


Yes and thankfully POE1 Devs also want that.
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
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Toforto#2372 wrote:
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MullaXul#2277 wrote:
Haha, between the death penalty whining and this what a hilarious forum. Think you guys need to go back to Diablo4 or a mobile game. I heard they're making a new ARPG that wipes your ass for you, might be right up everyone's alley. No PvP, no death penalty, everything is best in slot already identified on the floor and you don't have to think or move even once!


Bottom line:

It's a PVE game. Anyone supporting gatekeeping of progress and/or content isn't thinking clearly or is trolling.

There is no "prestige" in playing a game, much less getting the "TOP LEVEL", lol. Who are you going to tell about it? There's no "pat yourself on the back" achievement.

I'm being facetious, but the bottom line is still the same.


Yep, this game isn't an e-sport.


E-sports aren't even sports, lol.

I get the point though.
Visit my Steam profile here: https://steamcommunity.com/id/TheBaconOverlord/
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Guys Lost Arc and D4 already exist.... Ton of other games besides them as well.

i see a lot of feedback by people who have no idea what makes a good game or a bad game. Who clearly want every game they can find to be the exact same soulless watered down dogshit. Literally identically shitty in every way to the last game you're already bored of because you ruined it.

The shallow 2025 games a lot of you guys want already exist, but instead of playing them you're here complaining that this game isn't shallow enough for you.

Gee I wonder why?


Did you read the original post? Do you have any specific arguments against what I said? I’d love to hear them. Go ahead and tell us how these features contribute to making the game better.
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MullaXul#2277 wrote:
Haha, between the death penalty whining and this what a hilarious forum. Think you guys need to go back to Diablo4 or a mobile game. I heard they're making a new ARPG that wipes your ass for you, might be right up everyone's alley. No PvP, no death penalty, everything is best in slot already identified on the floor and you don't have to think or move even once!


It’s remarkable how many people come to the early access feedback forum to decry anyone providing feedback that might make the game better. Did you actually read the OP? Do you honestly believe that tier 1 waystones dropping in tier 15+ maps makes the game more fun somehow?

You clowns show up in every post that provides any sort of criticism and your only argument is “it it what it is because it’s always been that way”. If it were up to people like you we’d all still be shitting in a field somewhere. The old way’s fine. Why improve?

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