I might quit your game due to exp lose.

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himenoinu#2580 wrote:

"Git gud!" is the same level of malarkey as "Don't debate the topic on the person's feedback post". Former is just either trolling or fanboyism. Latter is completely silly. We have gazillion threads as it is. The forum would be even worse than that if each thread with have 1 entry. No sane person would bother to read every single one of them. However, when a thread gets traction (and not through incessant bumping), then maybe there's something there worth checking, no?

That's not silly that's how it works in many fields through feature requests. Somebody asks for something, and you press one thumb up or one thumb down to express how you feel about it. Currently, no person already bother reading anything because each thread is stuffed with the same arguments. Any good idea is lost in the middle of it.

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himenoinu#2580 wrote:

GGG already added a lot more penalties for failing than we used to have in PoE1. So it's like they're really into Ruthless mode all the way with a cherry on top. They might think you're wrong but you won't read it from them.

They never sound so sure when they talk about it. Their vision is never very clear
as if they were afraid of getting bad response or as if they don't really know themselves what they want.

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himenoinu#2580 wrote:

There is a league with no trade, but still balanced as if it had trade. However, that was not the point. But rather than you can't split the game in gazillion leagues to please everybody. It's impossible to start with and, even if it wouldn't be, it'd be a messy outcome for sure. Cus this "Give me opt-out tick boxes for everything I don't like in your game" demand can kinda lead to that. I don't want trade - check. I don't want MF - check. I don't want xp penalty - check. I don't want only 1 portal but 6... wait! Where's the checkbox for that. GGG!!! How dare you?! :D
And then, have a league for each combination of those checkboxes... seems silly.

Sure but maybe there's a middle ground between not adding any new league/checkbox and adding a league/checkbox for every aspect of the game. If you bring in people who are not playing the game I don't see it as a L. Maybe instead of having one league with 1k player you could have 2 leagues of 800 players each. Of course all of this is speculation, but I think the success of some changes is hard to measure without actually trying it.

As usual it is key to not counter an idea by interpreting it to the extreme (like saying that if you take away xp penalty everybody will be level 100 in two weeks).

One initial thought that may defend the other (the 2 reps from GGG of the interview) side perhaps...their remarks were quite intentional (despite the lack of empathy), and it was in doing so for the best for the future, i.e. prepare those that think there will be change and that it will be diff from PoE1 (end-game/mapping) but he already knows it's a lost cause (currently leaning towards they are in-the-know re. general community sentiments [and perhaps there really is nothing they can/will do]). However, playing devil's advocate, given the past history of PoE1 and what many others have said for their track record - this also isn't anything new in a way...so perhaps this is again no different, and history repeats itself once again (in due time).

To re-iterate (TLDR): post-interview, (personally) my current (until more data arrives from the community/YT/forums/Reddit/etc) bet will side on past history, i.e. "melee < ranged" and "zoom zoom 1-shot" -- so, no real changes from PoE1, essentially (with the main outlier of the campaign for the 1st ~60 lvls or so...lol --- and new melee classes like Druid/Templar/Marauder...lol [bye Warrior...lol {I don't count Monk...lol -- nor minion/Witch...lol}]) -- and timing-wise, I'll just say 2026+ (so, guessing 1 more year of gamedev until full Release post-this EA).

(Post this interview w/ the 2 GGG reps, I just decided to bite the bullet and re-rolled Monk [finally?] for SSF [felt the additional handicap of SSF would help Balance it out...lol. {Merc lvl ~64, Witch lvl 21, Warrior lvl 66 -- considering trying out the Quarterstaff for my Merc -- Re-spec Again...lol -- and yes, will still be on the lookout for future Druid/Templar/Marauder...lol}])

+1 Remove xp loss on death.