Player based will leave and this game will die out if they don't remove the XP Penalty

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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Jitter912#4278 wrote:

I actually play the game they produced, i advance by slamming orbs and finding crap on the ground, which is why I KNOW the game has serious issues.
The MAJOR one it wastes our time. Cause it may be fun ... it aint that fun

I don't believe a word of this....and none of what you posted makes a lick of sense if you truly KNOW the game.

Your major gripe: "the game wastes our time" combined with "I played 400+ hours, 5 hours YESTERDAY" ..... don't really go together.

Seriously dude.....read your posts. Make sense of it to me. What part of your time is being wasted that you keep choosing to waste it lol?

And your descriptions of "game knowledge".....don't measure up to your confidence that you are right. Nor this idea of wasted time.

Im playing the game...
When you finish playing
and your character is worse off than if you didn't play.
your time was wasted.

When for the time you were playing
You die to ground explosion you can't see, get stuck on geometry, or body bullied into a corner.
You fail trials because , No Evasion , No Energy Shield, Double Merchant prices,
Monsters hit 30% harder.

You picked up and orb slammed every piece of gear for days .... nothing.
The staff i use now I picked up 2 characters and 160 levels ago.

without buying gear fixing resists is a nightmare of gear roulette.

Yeah I know what wasted time is.
And I do it casue, I play the game , not the market, not the meta.
So when i give an opinion its informed.

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Jitter912#4278 wrote:

Im playing the game...
When you finish playing
and your character is worse off then if you didn't play.
your time was wasted.

When for the time you were playing
You die to ground explosion
You fail trials because , No Evasion , No Energy Shield, Double Merchant prices,
Monsters hit 30% harder.

You picked up and orb slammed every piece of gear for days .... nothing.

without buys gear fixing resists is a nightmare of gear roulette.

Yeah I know what wasted time is.
And I do it casue, I play the game , not the market, not the meta.
So when i give an opinion its informed.

I mean... have you considered that "Solo Self Found" without any help isn't something you should do when "hitting a wall"?

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Jitter912#4278 wrote:

Yeah I know what wasted time is.
And I do it casue, I play the game , not the market, not the meta.
So when i give an opinion its informed.

Your confusing an "informed" opinion with an "inexperienced" opinion. Your spent time has obviously not made you "informed".

If your 400+ hours was indeed wasted as you describe, its likely you who wasted it, and didn't learn much in that span of time.

Which is showing in your posts.

400+ hours is NOT an insignificant amount of time. Anyone who put in 400 hours of real time into PoE 2 in the last 2 months should be able to accomplish more than what you are describing.


You play in such a way that DEMANDS you learn and make use of everything. Yet....you don't seem to be doing or have done either.


Your problems have absolutely nothing to do with avoiding trading, or meta skills, or anything of the sort. It is your own unwillingness to learn and change.

The game you describe.....doesn't exist.


Additionally 400+ hours in 2 months is nowhere near "casue" lol. That's like diehard no-lifing time. Mathematically you are averaging 6-7 hours a day with that time. I reiterate the "self-awareness" statement from earlier

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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Jitter912#4278 wrote:

Yeah I know what wasted time is.
And I do it casue, I play the game , not the market, not the meta.
So when i give an opinion its informed.

Your confusing an "informed" opinion with an "inexperienced" opinion. Your spent time has obviously not made you "informed".

If your 400+ hours was indeed wasted as you describe, its likely you who wasted it, and didn't learn much in that span of time.

Which is showing in your posts.

400+ hours is NOT an insignificant amount of time. Anyone who put in 400 hours of real time into PoE 2 in the last 2 months should be able to accomplish more than what you are describing.


You play in such a way that DEMANDS you learn and make use of everything. Yet....you don't seem to be doing or have done either.


Your problems have absolutely nothing to do with avoiding trading, or meta skills, or anything of the sort. It is your own unwillingness to learn and change.

The game you describe.....doesn't exist.


Additionally 400+ hours in 2 months is nowhere near "casue" lol. That's like diehard no-lifing time. Mathematically you are averaging 6-7 hours a day with that time. I reiterate the "self-awareness" statement from earlier

well actually its 754 hours
400 on this character.

or the 5000 hours of PoE1
Im thinking ..... i do know what im saying.

Yeah I work from home, i leave it running often.
However.

The game is borked.
All i need to do is look at the top content creators of the genre.
They stopped playing weeks ago .

I give the feedback to GGG, i play non meta.
I shit post all over the game all the time in the areas that deserve it.
Most of the rage for EXP penalty is becasue the rest of the game has serious problems.

You dont see that outrage in PoE1 becasue the game is streamlined and more enjoyable.

GGG now has a sweaty, moderately enjoyable grid fest, with no benefit for doing it. The language of the game is about currency per hour, and not about fun exploration discovery or wins... chaos/hr divines/hr ... The trials are a jank shit piece of game that should have found a home in the recycling bin.

So why do people hate EXP penalty .
It's the straw, the one that breaks the camel's back.
The icing on the cake if you will.

After finding nothing
Not being able to create anything
Not progressing in maps

the Exp loss ... is just FU Im Done moment.

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Jitter912#4278 wrote:

well actually its 754 hours
400 on this character.

or the 5000 hours of PoE1
Im thinking ..... i do know what im saying.

Yeah I work from home, i leave it running often.
However.

The game is borked.
All i need to do is look at the top content creators of the genre.
They stopped playing weeks ago .

I give the feedback to GGG, i play non meta.
I shit post all over the game all the time in the areas that deserve it.
Most of the rage for EXP penalty is becasue the rest of the game has serious problems.

You dont see that outrage in PoE1 becasue the game is streamlined and more enjoyable.

GGG now has a sweaty, moderately enjoyable grid fest, with no benefit for doing it. The language of the game is about currency per hour, and not about fun exploration discovery or wins... chaos/hr divines/hr ... The trials are a jank shit piece of game that should have found a home in the recycling bin.

So why do people hate EXP penalty .
It's the straw, the one that breaks the camel's back.
The icing on the cake if you will.

After finding nothing
Not being able to create anything
Not progressing in maps

the Exp loss ... is just FU Im Done moment.

I am sorry to break it to you, but you are heavily lying about everything or you have something else running.

You know, I can look at your characters, right!?

Without PoB I could see immediately issues/mistakes/flaws only beginners would do and in PoB it gets even worse.

Do you want a breakdown of what's wrong? It's... a lot.

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Jitter912#4278 wrote:

You dont see that outrage in PoE1 becasue the game is streamlined and more enjoyable.

hehe....i'll let others tear apart what you just wrote because you just doubled down in the worst way possible.

But I will talk about this quote right there: YOU ABSOLUTELY see the same outrage in PoE 1. It's been around since freaking 2013. And its still around today.

You know when people stop complaining, or realize when others are complaining about nothing? When you LEARN THE GAME. Perhaps you actually DID learn something in PoE 1 after your 5000 hours which allows you to "ignore" the thousands of "exp penalty, no items, game is too hard" posts found on the PoE 1 forums.

You haven't gotten there yet in PoE 2 buddy.



Top content creators not playing anymore? That couldn't be because they have already put in 1000+ hours and done every single thing available to do in the tiny EA could it? That's what happens when you no-life the game and actually learn and know what you are doing. You "complete" it.

And yet even though I wrote that, what you said is just a straight up lie. Most of the top streamers (Ghazzy, Darth, Ben, dslily, crafters, etc.) ARE still playing PoE 2. They just also happen to be playing other things at the same time, they no longer need to ONLY stream PoE 2. There isn't new content for them to gather revenue from yet.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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Jitter912#4278 wrote:

well actually its 754 hours
400 on this character.

or the 5000 hours of PoE1
Im thinking ..... i do know what im saying.

Yeah I work from home, i leave it running often.
However.

The game is borked.
All i need to do is look at the top content creators of the genre.
They stopped playing weeks ago .

I give the feedback to GGG, i play non meta.
I shit post all over the game all the time in the areas that deserve it.
Most of the rage for EXP penalty is becasue the rest of the game has serious problems.

You dont see that outrage in PoE1 becasue the game is streamlined and more enjoyable.

GGG now has a sweaty, moderately enjoyable grid fest, with no benefit for doing it. The language of the game is about currency per hour, and not about fun exploration discovery or wins... chaos/hr divines/hr ... The trials are a jank shit piece of game that should have found a home in the recycling bin.

So why do people hate EXP penalty .
It's the straw, the one that breaks the camel's back.
The icing on the cake if you will.

After finding nothing
Not being able to create anything
Not progressing in maps

the Exp loss ... is just FU Im Done moment.

I am sorry to break it to you, but you are heavily lying about everything or you have something else running.

You know, I can look at your characters, right!?

Without PoB I could see immediately issues/mistakes/flaws only beginners would do and in PoB it gets even worse.

Do you want a breakdown of what's wrong? It's... a lot.

Pretty sure its just rage bait account at this point. They have 5k hours without every getting 4 voidstones.

.... an unhealthy amount of POE2 hours at 754...

Which would be 12 hours on average per day since launch.

And they talk about wasting time.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Pretty sure its just rage bait account at this point. They have 5k hours without every getting 4 voidstones.

In his defense on this one.....I have 18000 hours in PoE 1. I got my first and only 4 voidstones in 3.23. Never bothered in the other leagues since they were introduced, nor after 3.23. If he strictly plays SSF, I can totally see that being "normal" that he might have never gotten all 4.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Pretty sure its just rage bait account at this point. They have 5k hours without every getting 4 voidstones.

In his defense on this one.....I have 18000 hours in PoE 1. I got my first and only 4 voidstones in 3.23. Never bothered in the other leagues since they were introduced, nor after 3.23. If he strictly plays SSF, I can totally see that being "normal" that he might have never gotten all 4.

Sure, but do your characters look like his "92 Trickster" and are you saying stuff on the forum like he does? I mean, could be... but common.

I helped beginners fixing their builds and they always make similar mistakes and look like what he did. It's... weird.

Man, I enjoyed this game until I got to endgame (took me like 1-2 weeks).
It seems so weird to me that people accept that 1 portal per map where you lose all that map progress and resources invested .. it is simply a waste of time.
I really don't care to reach 100 or w/e other u try hard babble about. I just want to enjoy the gameplay .. but waste of time is never enjoyable.
Until that changes this game will stay uninstalled.