Changes to Ignite in 3.3.0
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The fact that GGG is making ignite more accessible makes me question whether it's going to be valuable at all. If it's so easy to build around then it will just be an afterthought like poison was in 2.6
Also, please don't destroy EE. It's a keystone with a huge penalty already - literally you have to have all your damage come from a different element than the one that procs it and that cannot proc EE or you have to alternate between elements (EG discharge + incinerate). Totems and spectres may get a lot of easy benefit from it, but they also have to deal with not being able to control their damage directly making the playstyle less involved than a self caster. I really don't see the need to change anything with that particular skill. |
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Honestly, I don't like these changes. At all. To me this seems like GGG is more focused on trying to fix the effect without wanting to address the cause of it.
Yeah, you can give nodes higher fire and buring damage values. But this won't help fix ignite, the only thing that I think this'll do is push scorching ray and RF even further than they already are damage-wise. Even worse imo is the change to skills. While this MIGHT fix ignite, it only does so for those specific skills. You used to care a lot about build diversity and doing pretty much anything with pretty much everything. With these changes, pretty much the only way to go about ignite is to use the designated skills (burning arrow, fireball and flameblast). However, this renders Stormfire, Three dragons and Hrimburn largely useless for anything that truly focuses on ignites. The only good thing about those changes are the changes to the ignite proliferation and deadly ailments support gems. Combustion will most likely serve as a replacement for elemental equilibrium for SR or RF builds at this rate. Or maybe even used in conjunction with stormfire, hrimburn or three dragons. Once again, sure you can increase the numbers to fix it. But if you do that, then do it at the right point of the equation. At the very base values of ignite damage itself. Or give us easier or more access to the "ignited enemies burn % faster" mod. Why not put that on jewels instead of ignite duration? Also, I'm against putting additional burning damage on nodes on skylldrasil. Ignite damage would do the exact same thing for ignite builds, but would prevent RF and SR builds from abusing the heck out of it. There's also the fact that ignite does not really have an ascendency class where it's "at home" so to speak. None of the elemental ailments do. Saboteur has blind and Champion has taunt (yes, I know, those aren't ailments). Assassin and trickster more or less share poison, though assassin has much stronger and more obvious focus on it. Gladiator has bleed. But freeze? Shock? Ignite? The closest thing would be elementalist for elemental ailments in general or chieftain for ignite. Though once again, the focus here is on BURNING damage instead of IGNITE damage, making it better for the much stronger scorching ray and righteous fire. TL;DR: I think you messed up big time with these changes, GGG, the only exception being two of the three support gems. These changes will most likely make ignite somewhat stronger for certain builds, while pushing RF and SR over the edge. I'm honestly and genuinely disappointed. I make dumb builds, therefore I am.
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EE already needs a build tailored to it because it can only be used effectively by totems or summoners. Otherwise it's too much of a hassle to apply it with a secondary skill before hitting anything. I don't use it often but I also don't like the idea of GGG messing with it.
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Too bad ignite still sucks. No matter what changes are made, ignite will still extremely suck.
And Nerfing EE. The most OP builds don't even use it much in the first place, but sure, go ahead and nerf a passive that only affects mediocre, specialized builds in the first place. Last edited by HedgeMoney on Apr 27, 2018, 4:57:43 PM
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" I like your essay. I'm dissapointed too because They are always focused on things that should be done far far long ago but not now, when most meta is - windripper +-quant/+-rarity setup. Changes always for 1% community. Changes like this are (tbh) for "Tarke" like guys - when they cry about traps - there is some changes for traps, when they cry about ignites - here we are, have fun with ignites next league guys.. Thats it. We have no impact on this. |
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if u wanna revive fireskills, you maybe bring fire to cold support gem/items
e: FROZZEN ORB from d2 we miss a skill like that, Last edited by starstouch on Apr 27, 2018, 6:39:50 PM
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