Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

Jesus, I think I'm done here.

"Using currency items like Exalted Orbs or Chaos Orbs on your gear is a powerful, risky and exciting way to improve it."

I've literally never Exalt slammed because it is more than just non-optimal, it is 99% of the time regressive compared to just using that Exalt to trade for a better item. Hell, every time I Chaos spam I feel like I'm wasting time I've already invested.

"The data we'd get from players interacting with a very powerful crafting mechanic would be very helpful with our ongoing work deciding the appropriate power level of crafting opportunities in Path of Exile 2."

So, we shouldn't expect anything different in PoE2, is my takeaway here?

"Upon playing the league, the crafting side of it was an immediate hit."

The takeaway here should have been players enjoy crafting their gear not gambling it or trading it.

"With Harvest integrated into the core game with 3.13.0, players still made ridiculous items. Even the crafts we made quite rare felt pretty common when the entire community was pooling them together and using them on the right items."

This seems to be arguing that players should never make or even have "ridiculous items", which kind of goes against:

At its core, Path of Exile is a game about the acquisition of powerful items.

And this is my issue, your team fundamentally misunderstands how many players play in non-Harvest.

At its core, Path of Exile is a game about gambling for powerful items. (Via currency drops, trading, or rng-fucked "crafting".)

"It's also important that items are hard to perfect."

It's hard enough as is (with Harvest) for those that aren't in the top 1%, and they likely don't ever approach the "perfect" gear anyways.

I would love to keep arguing this, but it is evident that GGG here, as well as in game, doesn't place any value on invested playtime, instead reducing every system to a multi-layered RNG fuckfest meant to appeal/abuse those weakest to gambling.

lets be honest here, its a gentleman move by chris. Blizzard pass over lots of their playerbase by the immortal desaster and now, chris the gentleman that he is, gives it all back in the possible D4 release year. its crazy how fast u moved from the voice of the playerbase to 100% disconnected from it. i guess the epic quote from that blizzcon youtube video still stayed until today: no king rules forever. you had a good run it was nice to be part of it, thx for all the good memorys and see you all in D4.

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This sentiment was summed up by a member of our design team who recently said "We don't want to take away the feeling of closing your eyes and Exalting an item, scared to see whether you ruined it or not."

Chris likes exalt-slamming the actual GAME to see whether he's ruined it or not.

Bad roll, Chris! You got T10 Mana on this one.

So harvest is just crappy fossil crafting now?

I am really sad to hear about this change. I was expecting harvest to get some nerf to be balanced and still enjoyable but I do not personally think that going back to the old ways is the right choice.

I have been playing POE for a while now, never really bothered with crafting, didn't like it at all. Then you gave us Harvest, for the first time I was enjoying a part of the game that I didn't want to bother with before.

My hope after playing Harvest was to get more control over what I want to craft and how I craft it. Unfortunately that hope is long gone, as you stated you want more gambling and less control.

I don't enjoy gambling and don't want to keep supporting it. I have been supporting you for a while now and I hope to support you for a long time in the future, but I can't support games I don't enjoy and I am not sure I will enjoy going back to spamming my exalts with my eyes closed.

I really love what you did with Ritual and hope that you consider people like me that work 40-60 hours a week and take time to come and enjoy your products with their free time.

Have a nice day everyone and take care of yourselves.

And again, the nerf was already solid to prevent any god tier craft for the pleb...
Now it will be better to just skip it, while the pro will keep on crafting Tier S item with it and fossils/inprint/etc...

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moldycondom wrote:

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Well all Standard Harvest crafted gear (and harvest gear from league eventually coming to it) is now going to sky rocket in price after patch drops.

More ways to break economy is always nice, good job GGG :)

Ok but nobody cares about the standard economy, it's literally a graveyard for league characters and items

Some players play in your so called graveyard !! Not every player has the time to do all the game content in 3 month, and will probably won't make it after harvest being nuked !!

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Silence4tw wrote:

lets be honest here, its a gentleman move by chris. Blizzard pass over lots of their playerbase by the immortal desaster and now, chris the gentleman that he is, gives it all back in the possible D4 release year. its crazy how fast u moved from the voice of the playerbase to 100% disconnected from it. i guess the epic quote from that blizzcon youtube video still stayed until today: no king rules forever. you had a good run it was nice to be part of it, thx for all the good memorys and see you all in D4.

Yeah and d4 doesnt have overpriced mtx people have to use to not look like a clown. GGG price for mtx is the same as a new game.

Cool, in an effort to stop the tryhards from breaking your game you've neutered the only crafting method the rest of us had to make anything *good*

"Players also expressed frustration that the most effective way to get the best items in Path of Exile was to join a discord channel and try to trade for these incredibly crucial crafts." xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

-Players expressing their frustration about Harvest.--> 1%
-Players who incredibly enjoy this Harvest craft system.--> 99%

As Matthew has said, this shows how little GGG listens its community.