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Honestly, I'm kind of hyped just to be rid of Scourge league. It was by far my least favorite expansion so far.
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Posted byShadow6202#5487on Jan 25, 2022, 6:31:31 PM
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Fyi for those unsure about it - Triple Damage does not stack with Double Damage. You either get one or the other. So there's no point getting Double Damage chance as well with The Annihilating Light.
Also this only works for Hits. DoT skills will see no benefit.
Finally the resistance penalty is multiplicative. This is NOT -63% resists. For a simple example, after the Act 10 -60% resist penalty, you need a total of 135% resists to hit the usual 75% resist cap (75 + 60). If you have an item with 50% reduced resists, then all the resists you pick up would be 50% weaker. And yes, this works the other way around for negative resistances i.e. they'll be halved too. So with -60% resists, 50% reduced will make it -30%. Basically 50% reduced halves your resists - on either side of the number line.
The part about all the resists you pick up would be 50% weaker is wrong. You'll need 210% resistance to hit 75%, not 270%.
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Posted byza6i9ka#5388on Jan 25, 2022, 6:33:34 PM
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za6i9ka wrote:
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Exile009 wrote:
Fyi for those unsure about it - Triple Damage does not stack with Double Damage. You either get one or the other. So there's no point getting Double Damage chance as well with The Annihilating Light.
Also this only works for Hits. DoT skills will see no benefit.
Finally the resistance penalty is multiplicative. This is NOT -63% resists. For a simple example, after the Act 10 -60% resist penalty, you need a total of 135% resists to hit the usual 75% resist cap (75 + 60). If you have an item with 50% reduced resists, then all the resists you pick up would be 50% weaker. And yes, this works the other way around for negative resistances i.e. they'll be halved too. So with -60% resists, 50% reduced will make it -30%. Basically 50% reduced halves your resists - on either side of the number line.
The part about all the resists you pick up would be 50% weaker is wrong. You'll need 210% resistance to hit 75%, not 270%.
I see where you need that many resistance with a multiplicative -63%... basically it says that all your resistances on your gear is 63% less than what it is displayed. A +10% fire resistance would become a +3.7% one.
If my math are correct, that also means that the -60% from Kitava becomes a -22.2%.
Overall you would need 22.2 + 75 = 97.2 / 0.37 = 262.7 to hit 75% resist.
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Posted byAzarhiel#6045on Jan 25, 2022, 6:40:34 PM
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They made the new staff a reduced percentage instead of a flat -X to resistances so that it would not be OP in combination with Doryani's Prototype.
Which is too bad because that would have been noice!
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Posted bycacmeister#6420on Jan 25, 2022, 6:42:35 PM
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Azarhiel wrote:
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za6i9ka wrote:
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Exile009 wrote:
Fyi for those unsure about it - Triple Damage does not stack with Double Damage. You either get one or the other. So there's no point getting Double Damage chance as well with The Annihilating Light.
Also this only works for Hits. DoT skills will see no benefit.
Finally the resistance penalty is multiplicative. This is NOT -63% resists. For a simple example, after the Act 10 -60% resist penalty, you need a total of 135% resists to hit the usual 75% resist cap (75 + 60). If you have an item with 50% reduced resists, then all the resists you pick up would be 50% weaker. And yes, this works the other way around for negative resistances i.e. they'll be halved too. So with -60% resists, 50% reduced will make it -30%. Basically 50% reduced halves your resists - on either side of the number line.
The part about all the resists you pick up would be 50% weaker is wrong. You'll need 210% resistance to hit 75%, not 270%.
I don't see where you need that many resistance with a multiplicative -63%... basically it says that all your resistances on your gear is 63% less than what it is displayed. A +10% fire resistance would become a +4.7% one.
It would be 3.7%, but thats not true either, since it is calculated after all resistances are added, so if your resists are positive, resists from -60% to 0% are basically not affected by this reduction.
Edit. With 63% reduction you basically need 60+75/(1-0.63) resists to hit 75% cap which adds to 262.7% in each resistance from gear/passives/whatever.
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Posted byza6i9ka#5388on Jan 25, 2022, 6:44:26 PM
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It would be 3.7%, but thats not true either, since it is calculated after all resistances are added, so if your resists are positive, resists from -60% to 0% are basically not affected by this reduction.
Edit. With 63% reduction you basically need 60+75/(1-0.63) resists to hit 75% cap which adds to 262.7% in each resistance from gear/passives/whatever.
Same conclusion after my edit :)
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Posted byAzarhiel#6045on Jan 25, 2022, 6:49:38 PM
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So would you need 60+140/0.63= 317.46 negative lightning resistance if you wanted to cap out at -200 for a Doryani's combo with a lightning skill?
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Posted bycacmeister#6420on Jan 25, 2022, 6:55:17 PM
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So would you need 60+140/0.63= 317.46 negative lightning resistance if you wanted to cap out at -200 for a Doryani's combo with a lightning skill?
I think it would be 200/(1-0.63)-60 = 480.5 resist.
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Posted byza6i9ka#5388on Jan 25, 2022, 7:04:08 PM
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So would you need 60+140/0.63= 317.46 negative lightning resistance if you wanted to cap out at -200 for a Doryani's combo with a lightning skill?
I think it would be 200/(1-0.63)-60 = 480.5 resist.
If -60% is -22% because of the -63%, should not it be :
200 - 22 = 178 / 0.37 = 481.08 ?
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Posted byAzarhiel#6045on Jan 25, 2022, 7:52:30 PM
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za6i9ka wrote:
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cacmeister wrote:
So would you need 60+140/0.63= 317.46 negative lightning resistance if you wanted to cap out at -200 for a Doryani's combo with a lightning skill?
I think it would be 200/(1-0.63)-60 = 480.5 resist.
If -60% is -22% because of the -63%, should not it be :
200 - 22 = 178 / 0.37 = 481.08 ?
60 doesnt come off the end result, so this is correct, you need -481 lightning res.
However, even if you had 0 or -50 lightning res, consider that boss resists can be like 40 up to 80% resists, so even zero resists means you are ignoring all boss resists, which is absolutely massive, especially with triple damage.
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Posted bytrixxar#2360on Jan 25, 2022, 7:56:07 PM
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