widescreen resolution removed from the game.

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Echothesis wrote:

Fog of war is more reliable because
1) It cannot be bypassed without extensive reverse engineering of the client no one would bother with, and thus can also serve as actual fair play component if skills range is limited (which D4 has btw, you cannot shoot as far as in poe there).
2) It looks much more plausible than black bars to average Joe, so not many people would even consider bypassing it just to see more stuff.

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Echothesis wrote:

And again, in poe what you see on screen is irrelevant for endgame, enemies will inevitably hit you, and you will have huge mapping aoe. Kiting is not a thing after Acts, you won't get any loot if every map takes 20+ min. As for bosses, they are dps check with their degen ground, maneuvering based on extra view area won't save you if you lack dps to oneshot bosses. (And only Sirus has large enough arena in the first place).

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Echothesis wrote:

I agree that the root cause of this split-second black bar fix likely was GGG not liking ugly visual glitches seen at the sides, not server performance or fair play or whatever. But let's face it, this game has so many ugly visual moments, from overlapping VFX clusterfuck to screenwide loot to specific MTX glitches, that it doesn't make sense they chose aspect ratio to double down at, leaving other problems unchecked.

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Echothesis wrote:

It is players choice to get themselves UW monitor, so why on earth GGG won't let players choose for themselves? If players find disappearing mobs ugly (and GGG remains adamant on not fixing it properly without bars), they can limit aspect ratio, if they find black bars cringe, let them enjoy panorama, it won't affect combat.

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AdRonZh3Ro wrote:

but only a fool or an abuser would keep saying that it's ok to constantly see (or not see) something the developers never intended anyone to realistically see.

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tackle70 wrote:

This makes absolutely no sense at all.

Black bars are not defensible

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Echothesis wrote:

Cannot find GGG-based information about this, what kind of issue was that? Monsters along with other VFX disappearing from view on client, but still can be interacted/killed on server? This shouldn't be an engine-breaking issue, just visual inconsistency. If it was, fixing said issue is still the way, and/or covering it with fog of war, not with unreliable black bars.

Numerous people already tested/proved no gamebreaking issue on their end so far (moderators will jump if I say more about this:) )

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jsuslak313 wrote:

This speaks volumes.....its literally on PAGE 1 on this exact thread. The second post.

Also......it was released by GGG less than a day after the patch.

Again, "numerous <anonymous> people" is completely meaningless when the COMPANY is the one producing this information. That kind of argument is as facetious as people complaining about RNG and how "their experience" doesn't match the datamined numbers and, in some cases, developer-provided numbers.

Who are you to speak on the "correct" way to fix this? Are you a GGG employee? Were you involved in the design or meetings in any way? Do you know the depth of the problem? Have you ever created a multi-million dollar global game? Come on man.....Claiming to be an arpg developer is essentially meaningless: I am also an "arpg developer" because I created a d2 mod back in the day. What's your point?

And even if you WERE an arpg developer with actual titles and releases and FULL projects under your belt.....you STILL haven't been involved at all in THIS game. So I would reiterate: how can you possibly claim the "correct" answer?

I can also do that: instead of black bars, the "correct" answer was for GGG to close the game entirely and devote all their attention to PoE 2. Because that would have fixed the problem. No black bars. No visual issues at all.

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One mistake or flaw doesn't excuse another mistake or flaw. MTX glitches, clusterfucks and what not are directly due power creep. Seeing more of the screen would be even more critical if the game was slower

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Echothesis wrote:

Exactly, and as long as poe remains fast in every sense (characters running speed, attack speed, dps, recovery, timed league mechanics, timed boss battles (degen ground)), aspect ratio remains irrelevant compared to other games where "UW = unfair advantage" doctrine came from. It is not humanly possible to keep watching the mess, every poe player switches to blindfight mode eventually.

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AdRonZh3Ro wrote:

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Echothesis wrote:

Exactly, and as long as poe remains fast in every sense (characters running speed, attack speed, dps, recovery, timed league mechanics, timed boss battles (degen ground)), aspect ratio remains irrelevant compared to other games where "UW = unfair advantage" doctrine came from. It is not humanly possible to keep watching the mess, every poe player switches to blindfight mode eventually.

Which boils the question down to "Should we see something that wasn't designed to be seen?" and the devs answered with No. It's that simple.

The only thing left is a dude that can't let go of seeing shit he's not supposed to see to begin with. Imagine wasting 2 grand for the sole purpose of seeing more in-game. UnDeFenSiBlE.

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Echothesis wrote:

As for "they decided bars, so you should suck it up and play", ok. If you wish to view this as isolated case never happening before, that is. UW was fine for 10+ years, then they woke up. LMB instant bind was fine for 10+ years, until Mr.Roberts didn't like it. Alt gems, div/ex swap. Decisions like this are against common sense, so you shouldn't be surprised by some people trolling GGG over it :)

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Echothesis wrote:

Black bars is poor man's decision compared to alternatives desribed above many times.

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Echothesis wrote:

With GGG's messiah ambitions they show off when rolling another patch of turning the balance upside down or deleting Standard players resources without as much as public acknowledgement, they could handle UW problems better.