widescreen resolution removed from the game.

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Nomancs wrote:

Ofc it is about perspective , inexperienced player is usually looking at what he have now and want instant gratification, the more experienced the players are, more they are aware of impact of changes on the game. GGG know even more. You say div/ex swap was bad because your pixels changed without considering bigger picture - fine, but that doesn’t make “it was bad” neither real or true argument.

You’re playing PoE every day, most players don’t care about forum, yet you’re engaged in PoE to a point that you comment here often. That is a perfect example of ggg making good calls. And in the end, we’re here and not in your game - as a game dev, think why their decisions are better if you soend so much time in their game and forum.

Changing topic from black bars to currency is perfect proof that there are no real arguments agains black bars.

I don't play poe every day for a long time already. GGG's good calls had long lost me as their paying customer. Just have this forum opened in background out of habit to occasionally distract myself from work, among other tabs.

Div/Ex swap was "good" (ambivalent actually, hardly a breakthrough change) if we consider only temp-league economy. But it was bad in Standard, developers shouldn't break baseline unspoken contract like that. If player chooses Standard because doesn't have time/interest to grind anew every time, should be obvious he/she won't appreciate being robbed. Also hope you weren't serious about "hitting RMT", dumping most in-game currency is not how you combat them :)

Black bars bear same mark, and you yourself started this "changing topic" deviation by bringing my personal bias into focus. So far don't see why I have to like those bars when they achieve nothing constructive in gameplay or immersion, aside from GGG's personal bias.

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Echothesis wrote:

aspect ratio remains irrelevant compared to other games where "UW = unfair advantage" doctrine came from. It is not humanly possible to keep watching the mess, every poe player switches to blindfight mode eventually.

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Echothesis wrote:

So far don't see why I have to like those bars when they achieve nothing constructive in gameplay or immersion, aside from GGG's personal bias.

Yeah, this will never go anywhere. One page it's irrelevant, the other it's GGGs bias.

So this is basically the thread, and it's really become childish.

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Echothesis wrote:

Imagine wasting 10 grand on top of the line pc upgrades every year, yet Nvidia somehow broke capitalization record recently

Oh, i'm sure the Average Joe wastes 10 grand on "top of the line pc upgrades every year". And it's not like nvidia had a huge chunk of that market profit from things that weren't even remotely related to games, right?

Your arguments are getting weaker with every iteration.

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Echothesis wrote:

UW was fine for 10+ years, then they woke up.

Funny enough 32:9 ain't even a decade old yet, but somehow it was fine for 10+ years before they even existed?

They did remove it cause it didn't worked without problems and caused more issues than anything.

But there's for sure a lot of yapping and false information spreading going on here not even only about the UW topic.

All the artificial uproar for mere nothing hoho

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AdRonZh3Ro wrote:

Yeah, this will never go anywhere. One page it's irrelevant, the other it's GGGs bias.

So this is basically the thread, and it's really become childish.

If you really need clarification, it was called irrelevant from players perspective, and biased from GGG's perspective, meaning they were more concerned about formality than about actually solving gameplay problems when implementing decisions like black bars.

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AdRonZh3Ro wrote:

Oh, i'm sure the Average Joe wastes 10 grand on "top of the line pc upgrades every year". And it's not like nvidia had a huge chunk of that market profit from things that weren't even remotely related to games, right?

If you really need clarification, it was a figure of speech. I can rephrase more dry: but people still buy themselves top of the line pc upgrades. What game would they choose, the one which can utilize hardware in full or one with archaic black bars?

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AdRonZh3Ro wrote:

Your arguments are getting weaker with every iteration.

Ok. Especially since you didn't even address my arguments from any of the above iterations and instead latched into 1 imprecisely formulated sentence as if this is a court of law :)

If you need directions towards the topic, feel free to explain why black bars are a great addition to the game, and what problems they solve for players.

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jsuslak313 wrote:

I'm all for using the forums for that kind of repartee, but if you truly want to hone your debating skills you are going to need slightly more than "trust me bro and ignore the provided information" for your argument to hold any kind of weight. As for "latching onto one phraes": well....one phrase is all it takes to both ruin the entire argument and reveal true intentions and lack of groundwork.

So let me get this straight: I made a statement and presented arguments why imo the statement is true. Other people do not bother with building their own arguments, they just lazily pick 1 word of mine that can be misinterpreted if motivated to, and then they say original statement is false.

Do you really think this alone makes you "right" when you don't even have a statement of your own? :)

If you try to actually build your own arguments on why black bars are magnificent, you'll discover that whatever you say can also be picked apart by such latching if responding guy focuses on that. It is the nature of linguistics. What matters is the intention of listening to others, and it makes a difference between an argument and a poe forum :)

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Echothesis wrote:

If you need directions towards the topic, feel free to explain why black bars are a great addition to the game, and what problems they solve for players.

Alredy told you how to fix it and why they won't. If as an "(rather amateur) ARPG developer" you can't understand why they won't, all i can do is grab popcorn and watch you two hold your breath and make pouty faces at anyone that dares disagree with you.

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AdRonZh3Ro wrote:

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Echothesis wrote:

If you need directions towards the topic, feel free to explain why black bars are a great addition to the game, and what problems they solve for players.

Alredy told you how to fix it and why they won't. If as an "(rather amateur) ARPG developer" you can't understand why they won't, all i can do is grab popcorn and watch you two hold your breath and make pouty faces at anyone that dares disagree with you.

Of course they don't want to bother fixing it. Yet they also added town portal hotkey 11 years into the game, so miracles are always possible, just like dropping a mirror is possible without MF abuse :)

And please don't beat me if it was 10 or 9 years, not 11.

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Echothesis wrote:

If you try to actually build your own arguments on why black bars are magnificent, you'll discover that whatever you say can also be picked apart by such latching if responding guy focuses on that. It is the nature of linguistics. What matters is the intention of listening to others, and it makes a difference between an argument and a poe forum :)

I mean.....if you would actually read any of my posts you would clearly find that the entire point I'm making is that there IS no argument to be made! We already have the answer! That is what I have written in every single comment.

I'm not going to offer my own argument because i don't have an argument: GGG told us why they removed the support. And then they removed it.

Frankly....you also don't have an argument. NO proven knowledge on the subject, NO believable background and expertise, and a complete and total disregard for information provided by the people who actually DID the programming in the game. "Trust me bro" gets you absolutely nowhere.

You know what the actual correct response is to this entire thread? The REAL correct response? When GGG said and I quote "We are looking at being able to increase this in the future.", the correct response is "Okay, I'll look forward to that day!". Not go on an endless crusade against nothing, providing what could loosely be described as "feedback", when it is in fact a veiled attempt at trying to prove to no one that a "real" programmer would have fixed this by now and/or better.

I choose to trust the makers of the game when they say there was a functional problem with the game THEY created and hold all the code for, with a team specifically designed to work on these things. I'm not going to offer an inexperienced, disconnected, and frankly insulting opinion on how to fix a problem I know nothing about because "black bars". Or worse yet, spend 2 years offering nothing and bringing toxicity to everyone else because "black bars". And actually...even now...there hasn't even been any HOW TO feedback provided! Just a bunch of complaining.

Heck, just this endless repetition of the response "Explain why black bars are great!" and the labeling of the "black bar crew" is telling in itself: that was never the argument being made. Not by any response. And yet that is the response continually being given no matter what was actually written.

So we quibble about linguistics? Well at least one side is actually accurately quoting the other. While the other simply makes things up.

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Echothesis wrote:

Yet they also added town portal hotkey 11 years into the game, so miracles are always possible

By all means, keep being pouty, it's your right. Just stop being pretentious. It's not getting any of you anywhere.

Maybe PoE2 will have a higher cut out so the excuses for wide don't apply anymore and you can complain about it then. Idk.

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jsuslak313 wrote:

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Exactly! It's does get boringly repetitive that GGG never knows what they are doing, except when the community agrees. I do hope they don't bend one nanometer in PoE2, let their Vision finally do it's thing and stick to it. And if PoE2 dies, it dies.

Thank you all for helping keep this ridiculous problem of black bars at the top of the forum.

1 year, 294 days

Fix it, GGG