How to fix melee builds

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Phrazz wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

I played melee build as a league starter in the past and it was easier than on any caster/bow build I ever did

I mean... What? So you think melee is better/easier for leveling than every spell/ranged build and are arguing against melee buffs because they're "not needed" and melee doesn't "need a fix" at all. You argue against toning down of the league mechanic, and didn't find it over tuned at all.

What exactly is "the past"? Legion league?

You're clearly a God gamer. Good for you. Personally, I think you're full of sh%$, no offense.

THe past is few leagues ago. I league started as Perforate Slayer during Lake of Kalanda when we still had rippy af AN rares. I also league started as bleed lacerate during Sanctum. I was considering starting as Volanic Fissure this league but its been a while since I played mines so went with those instead.

Starting as left side of the tree makes you way more tanky early on, and thats what you usually lack at the start. You realized how everyone who was complaining about league being ripppy af was playing Ranger?

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Phrazz wrote:

I mean... What? So you think melee is better/easier for leveling than every spell/ranged build and are arguing against melee buffs because they're "not needed" and melee doesn't "need a fix" at all. You argue against toning down of the league mechanic, and didn't find it over tuned at all.

What exactly is "the past"? Legion league?

You're clearly a God gamer. Good for you. Personally, I think you're full of sh%$, no offense.

Because it is easier, not faster but easier. Left side of the tree and ascendencies there are tankier. Im also against buffs for melee. It doesnt need them, what melee needs is easier access to tools it already has and more streamlined gear progression.

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kuciol wrote:

easier access to tools it already has and more streamlined gear progression.

Personally, I would call that a buff to melee.

What melee needs is early, "budget" version of things like BLS, Voidforge, Paradoxica, Saviour etc. Items thet would allow players to scale their damage in a way they will scale it in end game, and once they reach the point where they are able to buy those "big items" they will just switch to better, more expensive tools.
Melee has a lot of things they can use in end gma,e they can easily scale their DMG to infinite but you will need a lot of currency for it, thats why most people dont touch it as league starter (I ignore fact that melee will always be slower than Bow builds and just that will make them way less popular)

I only play melee and have since 2014. I usually start any league with cleave for its clearing and may add HS until I get boneshatter. I'm an average player. Good weapons are very expensive. I'd like to see damage scale with character leveling. I'd like to see damage increase over time with using the same weapon. Maybe the kill count on a weapon could move the needle on attack speed and weapon effectiveness. Get a payoff for using a the same weapon over time.

Melee exclusive benefits
More damage
More attack speed
More AOE
Better/easier crafting of higher dps swords, axes and daggers
Bonuses for being up close

And yes, ways to defend against spells.

How to fix melee builds:

Step 1: Get GGG to care.

Good luck with that one, it's been 10 years and counting.

all melee needs is some default additional strike range on strikes and better supports for slams, not much needed tbh

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suszterpatt wrote:

How to fix melee builds:

Step 1: Get GGG to care.

Good luck with that one, it's been 10 years and counting.

go watch alkaizer's stream and his build and tell me melee isn't alive


melee is in a great state atm and insanely fun

enjoy it while it lasts

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girng wrote:

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suszterpatt wrote:

How to fix melee builds:

Step 1: Get GGG to care.

Good luck with that one, it's been 10 years and counting.

go watch alkaizer's stream and his build and tell me melee isn't alive


melee is in a great state atm and insanely fun

enjoy it while it lasts

Melle was insanely fun for years now. But only if you have currency for those "cool" tools that scale your DMG to oblivion. For most veterans getting Voidforge and scaling it via added phys DMG wont be a problem, or getting 1.5-2k STR with BLS, but for most casuals it will be wall they cannot breach.

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Aynix wrote:

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girng wrote:

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suszterpatt wrote:

How to fix melee builds:

Step 1: Get GGG to care.

Good luck with that one, it's been 10 years and counting.

go watch alkaizer's stream and his build and tell me melee isn't alive


melee is in a great state atm and insanely fun

enjoy it while it lasts

Melle was insanely fun for years now. But only if you have currency for those "cool" tools that scale your DMG to oblivion. For most veterans getting Voidforge and scaling it via added phys DMG wont be a problem, or getting 1.5-2k STR with BLS, but for most casuals it will be wall they cannot breach.

true. but i've got to red maps with just a shitty 3-5c 2h axe so far. so much more room to grow with this build too, especially in the context of crafting an insane 2 hander. that's assuming they go the crafting route and not voidforge lol