Diablo (casual) Player, New in PoE: these are my thoughts :| (my first ever feedback)

You won't like PoE2 either if the skill tree ruined the interest for you in PoE.
The skill tree in PoE2 is also just pretty big and the new weapon swap tech for the passive tree makes you to think even deeper about your build compared to how simple it is now.

The level of complexity of PoE2 will likely be on par with the current PoE if not even deeper with the different combat/skill system.

Odd to read this from a diablo player, considering poe was essentially a diablo 2 clone and the issues you list come from there.

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You won't like PoE2 either if the skill tree ruined the interest for you in PoE.

You haven`t read my post then. I didn`t say passives ruined my interest.
I wished it had some gameplay-altering nodes / more interesting choices.

The idea is that character should have some choice in the game mechanic he wants, not rely on luck too find the gems he likes. So either thorough the passives, or some character progression skill, or whatever.

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Odd to read this from a diablo player, considering poe was essentially a diablo 2 clone

Does a Diablo player has to play all the previous games? I only played casual D3 and D4. I came here just because I don`t like those that much ;)

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Wo0olfgaNg_ wrote:

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You won't like PoE2 either if the skill tree ruined the interest for you in PoE.

You haven`t read my post then. I didn`t say passives ruined my interest.
I wished it had some gameplay-altering nodes / more interesting choices.

The idea is that character should have some choice in the game mechanic he wants, not rely on luck too find the gems he likes. So either thorough the passives, or some character progression skill, or whatever.

Hi,

I think the "rely on luck to find the gems" comment is related to the ruthless mode. There you won't be able to buy support gems as far as I know (not played ruthless very much, so may be wrong). But on non-ruthless you can get most gems from vendors and all of them once you reach Act 6 (except transfigured skill gems, exceptional support gems and awakened gems). If you play in non-ruthless mode, and have a specific play style in mind, it will be much easier to setup the gems you need and get the build rolling.

Cheers,

I think it was very unfortunate that you played ruthless. I didn't try it myself, but my first game experience was very much different - 3 leagues ago. You basically just scratched absolute top of surface of Poe in game mode which is totally not meant for beginner players. I would say that you did not experienced Poe at all. In normal mode acts are no barrier. If you are using solid skill you just run through it without any issue - and early on probably almost anything will do. Level 23 you reach in no time and you have seen nothing at that point. There is a lot to learn in Poe - I mean really a lot, but beginning of the game you should breeze through without knowing almost anything and on the way you start picking up some knowledge. I would absolutely check at least some beginners guides though to know what to look out for or what skill combo to choose.

Poe is a game which more you know about more you enjoy it. And once you know basics you can build on it really is getting pretty quickly better. Shame you quit and not wanting to really try it for real. On the other hand it is definitely not game for everyone as you must want to learn new things and do some research in later stages. Hopefully Poe 2 will be to your liking, but I wouldn't expect much easier game system if at all.

You`re kinda making me try again on normal mode :) But I really don`t like an abundance of artefacts, where you`re not exited on drops anymore.. Ruthless seemed the right choice for me, with the item scarcity ..

Anyway, the other issues remain, nevertheless.

Thanks for the comments. I hope devs are reading these as well :)

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Wo0olfgaNg_ wrote:

You`re kinda making me try again on normal mode :)

Cool, good luck. Not sure if you will like it, but I'm sure it will be very different.

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Wo0olfgaNg_ wrote:

But I really don`t like an abundance of artefacts, where you`re not exited on drops anymore..

You solve this with use of right item filter. And it is imo very important you use one. It will hide lots of things and lets you see only those of interest for you. I definitely recommend finding adequate filter for your build - like I play bow build and used from the beginning bow 1 early filter from crouching tuna. And how you are progressing through game you are changing your loot filter to more strict ones so you see less and less useless stuff - like now I have bit personalized omega strict from snoobae. Early filters will still show you lots of crap as it actually can be useful at that point, late game filters should show you only real valuables.

I recommend finding better filter than default neversink - they are used by most people, but it is only because that those are very likely casual players who never found out that there are better options. You can find filters under game tab here or in some build guides people are I think often linking them too. If you pick build lots of people here will definitely recommend you good early filter if you ask.

And if you do try it again and it will catch your attention enough that you will make it at least to act 6 and further then definitely check out trading site. Now you can get lots of things for very cheap. Like even armour for 1 chaos orb can be big boost to you early on if you will be struggling and not finding suitable on the floor.

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You solve this with use of right item filter

Why would the game even drop low quality items in higher lvl areas in the first place, if they are really useless?!

Moreover, I understand you would not care about whites or blues, but how bout the others? Wouldn't I want to collect and sell those?

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Wo0olfgaNg_ wrote:

Why would the game even drop low quality items in higher lvl areas in the first place, if they are really useless?!

Moreover, I understand you would not care about whites or blues, but how bout the others? Wouldn't I want to collect and sell those?

Game is dropping still everything all the way. In later stages just more rarer stuff too as many things has level restrictions where it can drop. And picking up rares from the ground you do usually only in early stages - like early and maybe mid maps probably latest. Because so much stuff is dropping that it would take you ages to pick it up, identify and in 95% percent of cases throw it away anyway as it don't have value. In very late game when you are juicing maps big time there is basically whole ground covered with items. Definitely hundreds of rares in one map maybe thousands probably including magic (blue ones).

At certain point once you will have solid build (estimation maybe in yellow maps around level 85 - edit: actually probably like more around level 90+ red maps) you will not find rares on the ground which will be better than what you wearing already. Best rares in game are not found but crafted. And also most of the uniques are worthless. Good item filter will highlight those with value. Good item filter will also highlight rares of interest - untill you will use filter which hides all of them. Like for example if you will use bow build and some filter for later stages but not totally endgame yet than it will hide rare melee weapons but still show best bows.

You can ofc still be picking up rares as long as you like and identify them and hope you will find something with solid value to sell it. And occasionally you will, but really not often. And for a little while it can be valid strategy, until you get some currency stashed. But it gets extremely tedious. There are lots of guides on early game farming strategies. And basically all farming in later stages is done by speed of light - you run into map, you kill hoards of enemies, pick up real valuables, kill the boss and repeat in new map. Usually profit you make is big time affected by amount of maps you run in an hour for example. Very early popular farming strategy is for example farming essences, but you can farm lots of things. But not items - you farm some type of currency according to your strength and options.

But all this you need to worry about later and you will figure it out step by step. First you need to go through acts and then you start progressing atlas. Ideally complete it all so you have maximum atlas points which allows you to set it up ideally for desired farming strategy. Early in the game (still in acts) your focus in items should be mainly on finding something with linked sockets you need and right colours so you can use right gems setup. Stats are not that important early on as you can always make it magic with orb of alteration or rare with orb of alchemy. But until like level 70 you will be still easily finding better items than you will have currently very frequently.