[0.2] Cold Chronomancer Megathread. Nerfed to the ground.

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A4TechiesTV#1731 wrote:

Is "Now and again" necessary when you start using Snakepit?

I mean mb Lich is better choice right now with 25% mitigation (ty "bypass ES" mechanic) and 30% more damage? Also Lich has HUGE mana regen

Still good for Frost Walls and other cooldown stuff.

Lich might be better but need good gear, because it need to stack ES, Mana and Life. And Chaos Res as well.

When i open my build in PoB and change to lich, that ascendancy give me no extra mana regen at 1350 Life that i have, at 1550 life i'd get 40 mana regen.

On Chronomancer i don't really bother with Mana regen that much, for clearing jewel with 2% mana on kill is enough, on bosses i have Temporal Rift, so i can reset mana to full every 4.4 sec or 3.5 sec if using Ingenuity support.

With good damage which require pushing up skill levels, no reachable amount of manaregen will be enough for CoC Comets.

For example when i open top 1 average hit on CoC Comet on Lich https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn/character/HC_MeT-2938/MeTTpuM_lich

His mana regen is 340, single comet trigger cost 740 mana, he has 1500 mana so that's just 2 comet per mana bar, each comet require more than 2 seconds of mana regen.

His Comet does slightly under 250k, considering jewel in ascendancy socket that PoB not support yet, and Execute support which is effectively 17% more damage. So its about 500k damage per manabar with REALLY high budget.

My build costed me less than 1 div, while that gear might cost more, since i was buying cheap items to slam exalts. So my setup currently does 65k at 5 link, 2050 mana, 242 manacost, or 550k per mana bar.

But Lich sure is more tanky when it comes to taking hits. Chrono has slow aura, temp chains aura and again temporal rift.

Both are good in their own ways basically.

Sorry for stupid question did "Time freeze" considered a curse? I mean does passive skills in the tree work on it like "Lingering whispers" (40% curse duration)

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Casia#1093 wrote:

ok. since I'm not certain I'll keep playing enough to get the new chrono to max.

I jumped on the old one and fiddled.

ok, here was option a.
https://poe2.ninja/pob/304e
with omen sceptre
coc, conv, clarity, mystic. blasphy +h temp chains.

only tried a t10 map. blasted through it. no real mana problems.
never dipped below 50%.

heres the thing.
average frost bomb hit. 12828 all buffed up. frozen/hinderd,crit recent, etc.

if I were to instead swap to my wand..
remove coc. swap heightened to manual cast hypo.
114 total spirit.5 unreserved.
average frost bomb hit. 25000.

https://poe2.ninja/pob/3056d

I haven't run a map with the wand again. Ill have to see how much +skills hits my mana. but in town screwing around I can't drain it. and without CoC procs.. I dont' know what could.


Too many buttons. the struggle is real. haha. nova, conv, bomb, wall, unleash, comet, hypo.
last slot for snap, timerift, and time freeze all competing for 1. and soul offering on swap..


so, I will edit and make up a "complete" build. as you might notice I only have 1 skill with greater/perfect gemcutters. which I had put on frostbomb.
my priority NOW would probably be wall, comet, then bomb.


I think you are all sleeping on unleash still. you know that triple cast does not consume mana right?

Both frostbomb and frostwall have cooldown, so unleash not work. Same for CoC/CoF.

Using unleash for comet that has no good supports left seems really meh, you better just keep using frostbomb that does more damage because it has all good supports. Same for ice nova.

And spend those 2 points on time freeze instead, or even time snap so you can reset frost wall back to 3 charges or reseting Conv which seems even better sometimes. With time snap i'd use second wind on Conv to have 4 charges minimum, to basically always have oh sh*t button aside of temporal rift.

No need for ice nova either, you just have frost bomb that has enough damage to delete packs in 1 cast.

For now my gameplay is just place frost bomb, if needed place frost wall, thats all. Conv/temporal rift if needed, hypothermia on bosses.

So you just using 3 more buttons for no real benefit tbh

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Alaids#0259 wrote:

Sorry for stupid question did "Time freeze" considered a curse? I mean does passive skills in the tree work on it like "Lingering whispers" (40% curse duration)

Not curse, it's technically 100% reduced skill/movespeed on mobs. Unfortunately it doesn't actually stop time as it should, so it doesn't stop debuffs from expiring, like freeze.

Otherwise would be cool, freeze boss, pop time freeze, now you get very long lasting freeze from which you can benefit with Heavy Frost or Thin Ice passives.

In general, I was wondering if "Lingering whispers" (and similar skills in the tree) only work on Time freeze. Imagine you press Time freeze on the boss and he stands in a freeze for 12-15 seconds or more

My update: https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/18hwmpcujs779/Nyali-7750/Ehlin

Using a combination from PaintMaster, monik and my own tastes.

@Monik: I tried effigy like you indicated and really noticed a large dps increase over scepter. Note the spirit I have: running CoC + CoF + Blasphemy with Temporal Chains due to the 60 spirit amul and 55 spirit chest. My helmet compensates for the loss of ES, but I'll probably drop blasphemy and get a 1k ES body instead.

Took a lot extra trigger energy in the passives. Most of the time I delete the screen entirely with 1 or 2 casts of frost wall. I notice I don't really need bomb all that much anymore. Only with bosses I do..

As for bosses - those need a lot mana. Deleting screens is easy on the mana due to the 4% mana on kill, but that doesn't work for bosses.

As for personal taste: I really like faster start ES. I don't know how you guys can stomach the slowness there. Getting it below 2s did a lot to my survivability.

edit: oddly Verglas adds the most dmg/dps when slotted into frost wall. Tested it with putting it on CoF/CoC/Bomb.. reading the description I don't "get" why putting it on frost wall itself gives the best result.. but oh well.

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PaintMaster#2396 wrote:

Both frostbomb and frostwall have cooldown, so unleash not work.

Using unleash for comet that has no good supports left seems really meh, you better just keep using frostbomb that does more damage because it has all good supports. Same for ice nova.

And spend those 2 points on time freeze instead, or even time snap so you can reset frost wall back to 3 charges or reseting Conv which seems even better sometimes. With time snap i'd use second wind on Conv to have 4 charges minimum, to basically always have oh sh*t button aside of temporal rift.

No need for ice nova either, you just have frost bomb that has enough damage to delete packs in 1 cast.

For now my gameplay is just place frost bomb, if needed place frost wall, thats all. Conv/temporal rift if needed, hypothermia on bosses.

So you just using 3 more buttons for no real benefit tbh

But its still insanely good to unleash on frozen bosses with comet.

I did remove nova. I wasn't using it.

I blew through a middling t15 waystone, level 80. no crazy mods. but overall was just cake still. using the previous shown wand setup.

So, anyway, here is a projected build. 100 with all points spent, and with 6links/quality.
but using same gear.
https://poe2.ninja/pob/30ab


I do barely use time snap. never twice. so, having second wind on conv. makes sense.
time snap to reset both charges, walls, and even unleash. I do think I like that more then having rift/freeze.

I def lead with wall. then bomb or comet. unleashed comets on rares/bosses when frozen.

Ambrosia is quite good. I don't know if it is enough to proc shock reliable.
3% per charge as extra lightning damage. consume 20% of max mana flask charge.
i didnt swap flasks, but I would want to. 70% inc charges, or .25charges/sec..
75 charges. 15 charges. gain 45% of damage as extra lightning
127 charges. 25.5charges. Gain 75% of damage as extra lightning.

again unleash only consumes once.

essence of the storm, and 12% lightning damage rune too.. might shock pretty consistent.

if anyone wants to test something stupid..

https://poe2db.tw/us/Waistgate

2 mana flasks.

https://poe2db.tw/us/Ambrosia

What happens?

Just in case, my character is up on poe2.ninja:

https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/1lz08uh1zzzaj/monik390-5560/Monik_ChronoDoH

I'm not using PoB for now, and don't have any plans to update maxroll this week, so yeah.

Live updates up there.

Passive tree is half-baked. I can't cook well before lvl 95 xD

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monik390#5560 wrote:

Just in case, my character is up on poe2.ninja:

https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/1lz08uh1zzzaj/monik390-5560/Monik_ChronoDoH

I'm not using PoB for now, and don't have any plans to update maxroll this week, so yeah.

Live updates up there.

Passive tree is half-baked. I can't cook well before lvl 95 xD

does it matter that people always choose `Skeletal Cleric` for the Soul Offering skill ?

P.S. and why do you choose a rune for the wand that raises cold damage? isn't it better to choose a rune that raises spell damage?