Cold Chronomancer Megathread. Fully updated.

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PaintMaster#2396 wrote:

So i assume you use CoF instead of Grim Feast, which should be 335 spirit in total with quality on all stuff that reduce reservation.

How's mana sustain on clearing with it?

I have 7/381 spirit. CoF, CoC, Archmage (with Clarity), Blasphemy (20% quality + Heightened Curse), Grim Feast. Usually I remove Heightened Curse and Grim Feast and take Blink instead, but lately been trying Grim Feast more.
I have MOM+EB+CI, about 4.2k ES and 4.05k Mana. 414 mana regen (used to have a bit more, but I dropped Ether Flow recently). 7% mana on kill from jewels. Also Invocated Efficiency gives me 3% of mana on spell invoke. Mana sustain is good enough.

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Kenshi2263#8330 wrote:

@chobi0ne#5028

Are you able to share your items/gems setup via maxroll?
I'm curious to see what it looks like

Sure, I'll try to make one today or tomorrow.

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DeathMaillet#9146 wrote:

Hi everyone,

Spoiler

I had the time to run through all the pages of the thread and learned a *$"*"*" tons of info i missed by only reading from time to time and the summary at the beggining.

Thanks to all the brainstorming. It was a real bliss to read all the history with the struggling earlier and the ressurgence of trust in the slowmancer afterward :D

I have 2 freaging questions left:
- I do not drop divine at all
- I do not drop slot +4 and slot +5 item AT ALL

like EVER. (Despite doing T14 maps)

So I'm stuck in time drolling at your builds without beeing able to afford those ...

And also I don't understand why but, when i try to buy the legendary amulet, there are lot of sellers at low price for some exalted orbs but they never answer the invitation nor really sell their stuff (same for the 2% mana on kill) I struggled 1h to finaly get my hand on a 2%mana on kill ... Any tips to increase my poor buying gear skills xD?

If you are running a slowmancer with some temporal chains and slow, I suggest you doing ultimatums (trial of chaos) for some currency. Just don't pick turrets and cannot be slowed mods.

Funny fact, that it's super easy for our build and bring way more currency than naked maps. Was about 20-50 exalts per 10 waves for me, 15-20 min per run.
If you can't handle 10 waves - feel free to go with 4 or 7 waves. Most of soul cores cost about 6ex rn, with a few exceptions (one of them 2d, other 3 ain't worth a sh*t).

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PaintMaster#2396 wrote:

So i wanted to add a bit to discussion and ask if it's fine if i do video about this build?

You are welcome here.

I don't mind at all, my videos are unlisted so ppl can't find them via YT. And I definitely won't do a video guide for it. Not my pill.

Just put a link to this thread somewhere down in the description, and I will yoik you guide to the OP (I still need to make a revision for OP to make it a proper guide, your help would be appreciated) =)

There is another YTber called Ruz who made a guide for "1d budget" boss carry, but besides bosses it has quite a bit of issues.

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PaintMaster#2396 wrote:

How's mana sustain on clearing with it?

Mana on kill jewels do good job.

Anyway, frostbolt is good enough before delirium maps, there are several ways to make it better - either mana flare support or snakepit ring for fork (explodes on contact after forking). The latter have incredible synergy with Frost Wall, so CoF suggestion from Chobi0ne is legit.

As for recoup passives, we will see after the nerfs although I'm very reluctant to bother with them.

Just got this bad boy (and this time it's because it's good):


Problem: Lv 29 Comet costs 663 mana now (603 in tooltip, 663 in action bar).
Setup: CoC, Comet, Inspiration, Concentrated Effect, Considered Casting, Spell Echo.
Damage:


Just for lols equipped my +3 amulet. Lv 32 Comet costs 896 mana. Damage (CoC Comet with same setup):


Oh, just a small note here: it's a Lv 20 gem with +1 from corruption which is currently bugged and not changing damage values for some reason, but it seems to affect mana cost.

Thanks for the reply ! I’ll try my chances at the chaos trial.

I usually took the turrets because I didn’t think about the fact that we slow xD

And I saw somewhere in the thread too that people sell the 5slot skill gem as trash of their trial to have 6slot skill gems. I didn’t even knew you could buy skill gems xD

I’ll try to put all those informations to good use thanks ! And hopefully be able to try the full build before we get freaking hit hard in the face again by nerf as all the previous patches did.

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monik390#5560 wrote:

You are welcome here.

I don't mind at all, my videos are unlisted so ppl can't find them via YT. And I definitely won't do a video guide for it. Not my pill.

Just put a link to this thread somewhere down in the description, and I will yoik you guide to the OP (I still need to make a revision for OP to make it a proper guide, your help would be appreciated) =)

There is another YTber called Ruz who made a guide for "1d budget" boss carry, but besides bosses it has quite a bit of issues.

Ok, thank you. Checked Ruz's video, going into aoe with Ice Nova looks good for clearing for sure.

What i also noticed, is how much better frost bomb trigger CoC Comet on single target than anything else.

When ice nova destroy all walls, it trigger like 3 or so Comets.

While frost bomb always trigger like 3-4 Comets twice, so 6-8 in total. Plus you don't need to use less crystal life support, and it times almost perfectly with temporal rift without swap to offhand with cdr shield. Frost bomb has 3.5 sec cd, temporal rift 3.96 sec (only cdr support). So you basically never lose mana, and cast 6-8 Comets every 4 seconds, with my current Time Freeze duration of around 16 sec that 4 casts, maybe it make sense using skill duration shield on swap, to kill bosses within 1 Time Freeze. Will test it.

Currently 3 supports for Frost bomb: Ambush, Fast Forward and Lightning Exposure.

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chobi0ne#5028 wrote:

Just got this bad boy (and this time it's because it's good):


Problem: Lv 29 Comet costs 663 mana now (603 in tooltip, 663 in action bar).
Setup: CoC, Comet, Inspiration, Concentrated Effect, Considered Casting, Spell Echo.
Damage:


Just for lols equipped my +3 amulet. Lv 32 Comet costs 896 mana. Damage (CoC Comet with same setup):


Oh, just a small note here: it's a Lv 20 gem with +1 from corruption which is currently bugged and not changing damage values for some reason, but it seems to affect mana cost.

lol.. man archmage is really dumb.

Any of you Crit archmages try Mana remnants? I am also running AM atm, but even at 50/50 damage it still basically never shocks for me. took that 1 point lightning node at the start for 18% lit damage/30% shock, and that lets me shock bosses. (I don't run mana remnants either. don't have the spirit, and since Im not running MoM, I have plenty of mana.)

https://poe2db.tw/us/Mana_Remnants

--+levels not working. again, are you sure its not just an update bug? you weapon swapped, or changed zones and its still wrong?

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Casia#1093 wrote:

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chobi0ne#5028 wrote:

Just got this bad boy (and this time it's because it's good):


Problem: Lv 29 Comet costs 663 mana now (603 in tooltip, 663 in action bar).
Setup: CoC, Comet, Inspiration, Concentrated Effect, Considered Casting, Spell Echo.
Damage:


Just for lols equipped my +3 amulet. Lv 32 Comet costs 896 mana. Damage (CoC Comet with same setup):


Oh, just a small note here: it's a Lv 20 gem with +1 from corruption which is currently bugged and not changing damage values for some reason, but it seems to affect mana cost.

lol.. man archmage is really dumb.

And of you Crit archmages try Mana remnants? I am also running AM atm, but even at 50/50 damage it still basically neber shocks for me. took that 1 point lightning node at the start for 18% lit damage/30% shock, and that lets me shock bosses.

https://poe2db.tw/us/Mana_Remnants

--+levels not working. again, are you sure its not just an update bug? you weapon swapped, or changed zones and its still wrong?

Wait, those jewels work now? I had one for HotG, it gave 2 levels but damage/manacost didn't change

Paint master it was explained earlier in the thread that sometimes it works but does not reflect in the tooltip. You just have to remove the skill and put it back in to update the tooltip.

P.S. : Monik can you show your jewels in the talent tree please ?

Awesome thread, thanks for sharing your insights and builds guys.

I wanted to ask, is there any good way to scale Cold Chronomancer without using Archmage? Any Uniques, gems, stats to chase?

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TheEighthPanda#4917 wrote:

Awesome thread, thanks for sharing your insights and builds guys.

I wanted to ask, is there any good way to scale Cold Chronomancer without using Archmage? Any Uniques, gems, stats to chase?

Archmage give massive amount of ligning damage. For me with 4k mana it give 3x the amount of cold damage that Comet has. So effectively 300% more damage, not even counting shock. I doubt there's anything even remotely close to Archmage. And since you already have to stack mana because of huge manacost, Archmage fits very well.