Cold Chronomancer Megathread. All content cleared. Leveling guide added.

i just finished making this build and yet, another nerf :(

so we can no longer melt bosses after the patch?

I'll just go back and play spark and lightning conduit instead then..

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Bakokang#3499 wrote:

What level is the Comet on your Meta Gem? I think mine has ~130k DMG, no buffs, and Impetus + Spell Echo + Considered Casting. I have 88% Crit Chance for the Socketed Comet. ~3600 Mana. Level 19 Comet (but I have a +5 wand). Must be the added elemental damage and overall increased spell damage nodes? I don't have those. I have more Energy Shield and Stun Recovery nodes instead. Oh and, I spent some points to get to the Meta Energy and Triggered Spell damage cluster at 3 o'clock.

20/20% comet, yes. Should be the same as yours with +5. Anyway, yes, I've plenty of increased damage nodes now. And soul offering.

That's the difference.

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aiseht#4782 wrote:

i just finished making this build and yet, another nerf :(

so we can no longer melt bosses after the patch?

I'll just go back and play spark and lightning conduit instead then..

Big F, mate.

Bossing needs tests, but yeah. No chain comets.

I'm really surprised they didn't nerf spark/LC fr. Nothing changed for OP Stormweavers.

That temporalis/choir BS had to get nerfed tho.

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monik390#5560 wrote:

- Cast speed is super important. I tried 1 map with 0.68s bolt/wall and that shit felt terribly bad.

*Looks at my 0.66 Bolt cast speed* lol :'(

Glad the Maligaro's worked out, I was previously using it as well for my EOW/Comet Build. In that build I was actually at 340-360 Crit Dmg before swapping to Mali's, but freeing up all those crit dmg nodes and changing them to crit/spell power really made a huge difference from losing that 40-60% crit dmg.

Did you socket the stat reduction soul core into your gloves or are you somehow rocking that much Dex.

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monik390#5560 wrote:

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Bakokang#3499 wrote:

What level is the Comet on your Meta Gem? I think mine has ~130k DMG, no buffs, and Impetus + Spell Echo + Considered Casting. I have 88% Crit Chance for the Socketed Comet. ~3600 Mana. Level 19 Comet (but I have a +5 wand). Must be the added elemental damage and overall increased spell damage nodes? I don't have those. I have more Energy Shield and Stun Recovery nodes instead. Oh and, I spent some points to get to the Meta Energy and Triggered Spell damage cluster at 3 o'clock.

20/20% comet, yes. Should be the same as yours with +5. Anyway, yes, I've plenty of increased damage nodes now. And soul offering.

That's the difference.

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aiseht#4782 wrote:

i just finished making this build and yet, another nerf :(

so we can no longer melt bosses after the patch?

I'll just go back and play spark and lightning conduit instead then..

Big F, mate.

Bossing needs tests, but yeah. No chain comets.

I'm really surprised they didn't nerf spark/LC fr. Nothing changed for OP Stormweavers.

That temporalis/choir BS had to get nerfed tho.

Yes big nerf, we cant get energy from CoF frostwall + CoC Comet that make trigger harder.....

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Madlancer#7814 wrote:

Did you socket the stat reduction soul core into your gloves or are you somehow rocking that much Dex.

w8 wut.... I totally forgot that thing exists...
Damn, it'd save 14 dex... I will put it in, yes. Will back to a better snakepit.

You can use dex from the gloves after you put them on.
I.e. my gloves have 15 dex on them, with 73 dex requirement. Means I need just 58 more dex to get.
So I got Snakepit with 10 dex corruption, breach ring with 22 dex, and the rest from passives. Put amulet with dex so I can fit Gloves, after that swapped to Gaze again.
Rn I have 74 dex total, 15 dex from gloves counted.

Anyway, I will definitely use that soul core after the patch goes live.

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monik390#5560 wrote:

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Bakokang#3499 wrote:

What level is the Comet on your Meta Gem? I think mine has ~130k DMG, no buffs, and Impetus + Spell Echo + Considered Casting. I have 88% Crit Chance for the Socketed Comet. ~3600 Mana. Level 19 Comet (but I have a +5 wand). Must be the added elemental damage and overall increased spell damage nodes? I don't have those. I have more Energy Shield and Stun Recovery nodes instead. Oh and, I spent some points to get to the Meta Energy and Triggered Spell damage cluster at 3 o'clock.

20/20% comet, yes. Should be the same as yours with +5. Anyway, yes, I've plenty of increased damage nodes now. And soul offering.

That's the difference.

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aiseht#4782 wrote:

i just finished making this build and yet, another nerf :(

so we can no longer melt bosses after the patch?

I'll just go back and play spark and lightning conduit instead then..

Big F, mate.

Bossing needs tests, but yeah. No chain comets.

I'm really surprised they didn't nerf spark/LC fr. Nothing changed for OP Stormweavers.

That temporalis/choir BS had to get nerfed tho.

So Monik, does it mean that the best combo we can do right now is to put walls and self cast comet or we can still do the same thing, but with less damage? (since wall and frostbolt can still proc the comet right?)

Does it mean that we need meta energy gem as well?

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aiseht#4782 wrote:

So Monik, does it mean that the best combo we can do right now is to put walls and self cast comet or we can still do the same thing, but with less damage? (since wall and frostbolt can still proc the comet right?)

Does it mean that we need meta energy gem as well?

Well, frostball/wall will work anyway, so you get it right.

But I think of using an unset ring for Frost Bomb for Wall detonation instead of Snakepit for pinnacles. Frost Bomb triggers more Comets than Frostbolt for some reason.
If with Ball I get 1-2 Comet casts per Wall cast, with frost bomb it's 3-4 Comet casts. Not sure about self-casting comets and how good they are in triggering CoC.

And yeah, it seems Impetus is a must-have now. Probably we will need a bit more investment in energy gain too.
But there's a thing, Considered Casting should not work with trigger spells. So we put Conc there on bosses anyway after it gets fixed.

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monik390#5560 wrote:

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aiseht#4782 wrote:

So Monik, does it mean that the best combo we can do right now is to put walls and self cast comet or we can still do the same thing, but with less damage? (since wall and frostbolt can still proc the comet right?)

Does it mean that we need meta energy gem as well?

Well, frostball/wall will work anyway, so you get it right.

But I think of using an unset ring for Frost Bomb for Wall detonation instead of Snakepit for pinnacles. Frost Bomb triggers more Comets than Frostbolt for some reason.
If with Ball I get 1-2 Comet casts per Wall cast, with frost bomb it's 3-4 Comet casts. Not sure about self-casting comets and how good they are in triggering CoC.

And yeah, it seems Impetus is a must-have now. Probably we will need a bit more investment in energy gain too.
But there's a thing, Considered Casting should not work with trigger spells. So we put Conc there on bosses anyway after it gets fixed.

i see, I still have an empty skill slot, with 352 spirit i managed to put temporal chain and conductivity into my 5 slots blasphemy, will test the frost bomb tech later

what support gems that you think is best? shall i put fortress in ice wall and move the triple-lines gem (i forgot the name sorry, thing that makes frost bomb triplized lol) or do you have other recommendations?

I dont understand the Meta skill change, issnt this how its supposed to be? Or was it double dipping somehow.

Here is Frost Bomb demo: https://youtu.be/3xMh6ks5ySs

It still drains entire mana pool.

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Madlancer#7814 wrote:

I dont understand the Meta skill change, issnt this how its supposed to be? Or was it double dipping somehow.

Not sure about "supposed", but it's true that each comet cast from CoC is generating energy for CoC itself atm. So, if you triggered 1-2 comets by wall detonation, next comet from CoC will trigger another comet from CoC and so on until you have no more mana.

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UPD: 1. Frost Wall thing works with Impetus more reliably than with Conc.
2. Unset ring works well. No need to put all gems again after setting them up to skill gems list. Just need to put ring again.

I have 4 socket Bomb rn: Fast Forward - Elemental Focus (?) - Cold Mastery (?) - Ambush (swap from Frostbolt).

This is it for now. Lets see if things would work this way after the patch.

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UPD2: Self-casting Comet works too, in the same way. Seems like a better option than Frost Bomb. 1.75s Comet cast vs 0.61s FB + 2s duration w/ Fast Forward.
Comet hits harder, but costs more mana. Which probably can lead to fewer comets from CoC.
Not sure about that. But I think Comet mana problem can be fixed with either more mana regen or less mana cost of skills. Need just enough regen to recover Comets cost during its casting.