Trials of ascendency are now worse POE2

i wont be back until its removed from the game

I can't believe that it feels like everyone now misses the Labyrinth. I did not even know that was something I could even imagine and now it's actually happening.
I have honestly no idea how to salvage these Sanctum trials if I were the devs, you feel so much effort was put in these, there is no way this will become optional because no one will use this part of the game ever again.
I'm a bit worried because there must be numbers from PoE 1 how many players actually completed sanctum trials outside of Sanctum League? Even PoE1 Sanctum enjoyers it's totally out of touch in this game, how did this happen?
If there is one thing PoE2 doesn't do at the moment is respect the player's time.

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leto2626#2588 wrote:

I can't believe that it feels like everyone now misses the Labyrinth. I did not even know that was something I could even imagine and now it's actually happening.
I have honestly no idea how to salvage these Sanctum trials if I were the devs, you feel so much effort was put in these, there is no way this will become optional because no one will use this part of the game ever again.
I'm a bit worried because there must be numbers from PoE 1 how many players actually completed sanctum trials outside of Sanctum League? Even PoE1 Sanctum enjoyers it's totally out of touch in this game, how did this happen?

It was a very purposeful decision and adversarial. "A large portion of you dislike this content, but what if we put your ascendancy behind it?". I don't think they can salvage it easily, and I don't think replacing it is an option for a while as that would take large development time. The best they can do is scale it down massively or just flat out remove Honor. Ultimatum/Chaos Trials suffer as well with really poor balancing especially for when you are able to access them. But I doubt they can be replaced in a simple way atm, but down the road I feel like replacing them should be something that is looked into. I've personally never hated Labs, I always liked hearing Izaro, if only for his awesome voice lines.

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Lyutsifer665#1671 wrote:

i just got a carry for it. merc lab carry is only 5 exalt on TFt. save yourself the frustration and get a carry. GGG is the most stubborn company ever, they will not change trials no matter how much people hate them

I understand but that should not be the only way for 97% of the player base.

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Arkanis_Gath#3480 wrote:

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Lyutsifer665#1671 wrote:

i just got a carry for it. merc lab carry is only 5 exalt on TFt. save yourself the frustration and get a carry. GGG is the most stubborn company ever, they will not change trials no matter how much people hate them

I understand but that should not be the only way for 97% of the player base.

This actually just makes me laugh, because lab carries used to be a thing back in the past too. It's like they really regressed with this one.

If the Ascendancy Trials stay as is I probably won't play PoE 2 on final release, at best I certainly won't ever have a character with an Ascendancy class.

F trials.

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leto2626#2588 wrote:

I can't believe that it feels like everyone now misses the Labyrinth. I did not even know that was something I could even imagine and now it's actually happening.

I really did hate lab and wanted something new but when i think along the lines of would i rather do lab or sanctum/ultimatum most times i just arrive at I'd probably just rather do lab and I'd definitely still groan at lab but at least seeing the other side of the fence it'd be less than i used to.

Sanctum wasn't really a mechanic i enjoyed but at least to some degree you can take it steady, i haven't tried melee and i can see how it could be terrible there and i don't really mind the ultimatum in general but the way the mods can roll it can be really brutal.
I really struggled on 2 different chars then another just breezed it and i don't really like how that feels, at least the first few labs were generally doable on almost all types of char with the last being pretty challenging at times.

I didn't feel like i overcame a challenge i just felt like i persevered enough to get good enough rng to get through.

I think sanctum is just there because they spent a lot of time making it so didn't want to delete it completely but they also had to find a way to not have it print currency anymore so easier to turn it into a trial type thing than tune it as a league mechanic.
I'd rather it stayed as a tuned league type mechanic because i know people enjoy running sanctum and i think it's good for trade leagues to have different sources of specific items so enjoyers of each can make their money i just think it and ultimatum don't really suit the doable by all types of builds/classes thing that trials should be.

I never ran Labs for fun in poe1; never specced atlas for them and only did what I had to for ascendacy. Hated Sanctum. hated Ultimatum too. Basically anything with too much rng modifiers where if i wasnt some specific hyper build was a no-go for me.

Well now I have all of this forced on me in poe2 and I actually have to complete the whole thing to get the rewards. Ultimatum in poe1 could be stopped early for rewards up to that point. If I want ascendacy in poe2 tho I gotta clear the entire ultimatum/sanctum without failing once.

this is for ascendancy points not some uber skill challenge where if i fail i just wasted an hour+ of my life for nothing because a single fire trap blew up 80% of my honor bar

I'm right there with you. Ive done my 3rd trial 15 times failed 10 dc'd 5. Im going to go back to OG POE where the trials arent easy but they dont gatekeep progression with rng sanctums.... They say they are putting in another option but who knows that one might be worse.... Im concerned at Dev choices in this game and worried that they wont correct course and change things but all but the hardcore will stick with.