Why POE2’s Direction Is Worrying for Veterans and Newcomers Alike

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SkyPrince30#4110 wrote:

Do people read these replies? Because I hope the devs do. I want to say I agree with everything you said as well, but even if I didn't, every point you made was valid, well thought out, and well said, so kudos, seriously. This is the kind of advice the dev's need to listen to.

I'm a 500ish player of PoE 1, about 50ish of PoE 2, and 0 of diablo. I don't dive into many games anymore, but this is one I was willing to do.

Instead, I uninstalled for many of the reasons you mentioned. I will admit, I love the crafting and theory building, but my mechanics are mid-tier. My brain isn't off, but I can't move as fast as GGG clearly wants me to.

And then everything else you said was on point.

I want to love this game, but it feels like PoE 2 is an exclusive club, and I'm not invited, which is frustrating, because I want to love their game. And in a lot of ways, it feels like they don't know what they want. They say 1 thing, but then the gameplay says another.

Overall, yes, I think the game is too difficult, but it can't be reduced to 'skill diff'. It's map size, emotional difficulty due to boredom and frustration, sliver's of reaction time for early act bosses in a game where end-game is supposed to be a thing, loot, passive tree...the list goes on. It's a lot of little things that build up to "this is difficult" (be it mechanically or patience wise).

But, again, I don't know if it's ea or this is the direction, but it feels like this is for a niche audience.

And I hope the dev's actually take this input, and understand we're 'negative' because the positives make us hopeful for a game we could really love, And, in some ways, it feels like GGG themselves are gatekeeping with their design, possibly out of fear of making it too "easy", but, as you perfectly articulated, there are ways to make it accessible while retaining the core design philosophy.

Fingers crossed they listen.

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DreadlordMephisto#4974 wrote:

Also the visual clutter in this game is ridiculous to say the least, Janamra phase 2 sub 40% HP is probably the biggest example ive come across regarding this.


When there is so much crap on the screen you literally cannot make a split decision calculation on where to dodge, off a correct read and then you get roll caught and punished for it while also probably eating up a follow up mechanic is pure insanity.

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Skiller2009#5689 wrote:

Impressive games collection exile, but are you a 'default'?

Look.. alot friends payed so much money.. and they love everything about poe2 the way it is. The game is deceloped for millions.. not for 10 players.

Today almost no one plays and speaks about diablo1.. although it was a success to make something new which attracted more gamers
. See d4.. 600 million revenue.. make it real to adress that market demands..

Alot already seasoned poe2 tried poe1.. and they hate it.. if they could they would ask for discontinuation of poe1.. just to further enhance 2.. maybe this should just be done as it is not needed and so that the comparison stops.

I for example love poe2 crafting.. we had in a group a super deep and successfull crafting session in the morning.. it was awesome and thanks for implementing it this way.. (i throw up if more currency is implemented.. its fast paced.. perfect for running). Poe1 crafting is garbage. so old so clunky.. not modern.. and so easy.. lol.. recombinator.. add two rares and get best of two back.. i would be done after day 1 not day 3..
This cant be demand and target group (40/ 50 years..). If you like to read books about a game play dwarve fortress.. it was not super bad.. but.. maybe 500k sold copies. Got that also lol?

Its about develping 600 mil revenue game .. no one would play poe1 2.0 . Oh ok.. maybe you are the fraction or d1 guy.. but .. the market are not the defaults... its the backers who love ggg.. face it.. there.was never a promise to create a second part nor a demand for a new.poe1 season (its complete..and old).. thats why it will not receive a new season in 2024.

Thanks ggg for that awesome game..you would even have my vote to close down poe1 to focus on 2. Please dont develop it for 10.players but for the millions target group.. i fear if we dont speak up here it.will fail.

Want to laugh? 2 seasoned poe1 players discussing they were searching for poe1 skills.. righteous fire and bone shatter..

Ggg already said..rf was wrongly implememted .. it was a fail.. not a w, and boneshatter exists as it is a combo now!! Not.even this they knew..

And i tell you.. 40% of passive tree can be reduced.. i would throw up if i see poe1 tree.. without design and spirit.. looks boring.

If you want easier game.. play poe1.

Its same with hc players...dont balance this tiny fraction.. so many ssf are.in 80s and so many of.my friends done with poe2 leveling.. very performance oriented but would never play hc due to.power.outage chance.. they are decent.. and not no lifers...not defaults. You want to balance around this group.. not the 400 lvl 40 hc players.. which complaint. Lol..

Remove hc.. offer only core and ssf.. balance around this via portals and give players a kill counter + achievement.. if they are deathless and all these meetings discussions and weird balance tweaks which drag performance ..vanishs.. give us fun and engaging challenge.. and not boredom after 3 days with lvl 99.. xx million happy.