I just wanted to say that I am having zero fun playing this game.

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Holigawd#2935 wrote:

That's fair, some of the skills are a bit lackluster... I still am going to say it's the build, because of her skill choice is a part of that. If a build is failing, you take a step back and see what the issue truly is... maybe it's her choice of skills? Could be a number of things that's the issue. Have to exhaust all avenues before jumping the game and blaming everything else.

Ok, what is your suggestion to fix the build? Let's assume neither of us know what skill she is using from watching the video, but we can deduce that since it's a monk, it's melee. There are going to be two things that everyone is going to focus on right from the start in a monk melee build:

1. Attack Speed
2. Damage

There's nothing else. I mean...there really is nothing else at that level. You can't really screw up the build. Fact is, some skills are decent, but most skills are garbage/untested and fall off after a handful of levels, with no way of upgrading them beyond your typical stupid passive such as:

"Increases your melee damage by .5% per light radius of nearest trans monster on Fridays between 8-9pm when the moon is full and crickets are playing poker on your front lawn."

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Holigawd#2935 wrote:

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Vendetta#0327 wrote:

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The biggest problem is that all too often it's people calling it bad, without offering any reasons or anything constructive, which serves no purpose other than being annoying and coming off as crying. Hell, I personally think the game is really good... sure it has it's issues and changes are going to come, but it's definitely a good game, it's just not for everybody.

You are wrong...To be honest, people stating it's not fun due to slugish gameplay, slow gameplay so on so forth, provide more feedback than players stating, "get good" "the game is fun" "i am having fun" which provide 0 feedback and only personal oppinion.

Every big streamer right now, literally provided constructive feedback, trying so so hard to also cover up for the bread provider, and yet some people think that people are just crying and not providing any feedback...

Since friday and up to now, EVERYONE EXCEPT THE ONES stating the game is fun has provided feedback, even the average "game is dogsh1t" probably at some point provided feedback and got gunned down by the "i am having fun" parade of people providing literally nothing beside a personal opinion.

Also I need to add that those are the exact people that probably never reached any kind of achievement in poe1 or poe2...The vast majority of them are just simping or coping ... One way or another.

I'm not talking about streamers, I'm talking about on here... I don't care what the streamers are saying, their opinion is about as important as yours or mine, I've heard some of them and they make good points, most of which I've already heard... but that's not on here, not often at least.

What feedback would you like from me? I'm not the one going around crying and throwing shade constantly... what feedback would you like me to give? I don't feel weak, I still occasionally get jacked up my mobs and have some deaths. I like the bouncy gameplay of the spear... I've nothing else to really say about the patch as of yet... nothing super negative at least, it's a bit of slog at times... but that's usually resolved with gear and build tweaks. I feel like y'all just want everyone to feel miserable about the game like y'all do, sorry I don't feel that way.

So no, I'm not wrong.

I think the discussion should end here, everyone quoting you telling you, you are wrong, are actually wrong and you are not wrong.

If you think the game is fun you should state what is fun about it, you should have a grasp upon what makes you happy or unhappy compared to a previous iteration. You do not have that, all you have is "I am not crying cuz I took my big boy pants on and do not want to rant"...

Tell us what you like in a patch that robbed you of the power you had, robbed you of the defensives you have, terribly unbalanced mobs life, terribly unbalanced the already big maps, made the game feel like a work day that just doesn't end, released a class that is subpar for now ( not that the others are doing any better), and brings nothing but bad terrible devisions...

Let us know what you like, until then you may not be factually wrong, but you are not entitled to call the game fun either..Just call it your personal opinion and stop quoting and commenting to others that they do not provide feedback, while they provide feedback in their own way and you are not.

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Jitter912#4278 wrote:

Game is no fun at all
waste of time.

Normally i wouldn't share videos of me just getting beaten up.

This is Jamanra ,
IM LEVEL 36!
Im wearing what i could get up to this point.
Im building an off meta monk

Im using a yellow qStaff with +2 melee
using
WInd blast , with poison support and concentrated effect and plague
plan is to spread poison , im specced into poison and physical on the tree ,
most my nodes were evasion and energy shield stats ...

Sorry you can hear DS_Lily in the background, im not her :)
Im listening as i play it recorded my sound ....

This in numbing , boring unrewarding , I put on 6 levels destroying the mobs up to here trying to farm anything ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLCCP1Mr5us

Game is not fun ....
Me looking like an ass .....

I can literally feel this video...

Weren't you the one saying that the game is 100% luck and nothing deterministic ? Guess you were unlucky I guess am I right ?

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Vendetta#0327 wrote:

I think the discussion should end here, everyone quoting you telling you, you are wrong, are actually wrong and you are not wrong.

If you think the game is fun you should state what is fun about it, you should have a grasp upon what makes you happy or unhappy compared to a previous iteration. You do not have that, all you have is "I am not crying cuz I took my big boy pants on and do not want to rant"...

Tell us what you like in a patch that robbed you of the power you had, robbed you of the defensives you have, terribly unbalanced mobs life, terribly unbalanced the already big maps, made the game feel like a work day that just doesn't end, released a class that is subpar for now ( not that the others are doing any better), and brings nothing but bad terrible devisions...

Let us know what you like, until then you may not be factually wrong, but you are not entitled to call the game fun either..Just call it your personal opinion and stop quoting and commenting to others that they do not provide feedback, while they provide feedback in their own way and you are not.

They also told Pythagoras and Aristotle they were wrong when they stated the Earth was round. Look how that turned out? I'm not telling y'all to not dislike the game, I want y'all to have your opinions and to share them, but be constructive and leave the emotions at home where they belong... too many people come in here so overly emotional. Also your concept of "everyone" is like 2 people. Lol.

I don't need or care if y'all agree with me, you have opinions and I got mine. Pretending yours are correct, solely because it's what you believe, doesn't make it so.

I'm playing a huntress, enjoying it, gameplay is bouncy with the spear, what more explanation do you need? I don't feel weak, I kinda run through most things, groups sometimes will nuke me and that's cool, it happens. I don't know what type of answer you expected.

But yea, conversation with you, should end there.

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Xaaraax#1986 wrote:

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Holigawd#2935 wrote:

That's fair, some of the skills are a bit lackluster... I still am going to say it's the build, because of her skill choice is a part of that. If a build is failing, you take a step back and see what the issue truly is... maybe it's her choice of skills? Could be a number of things that's the issue. Have to exhaust all avenues before jumping the game and blaming everything else.

Ok, what is your suggestion to fix the build? Let's assume neither of us know what skill she is using from watching the video, but we can deduce that since it's a monk, it's melee. There are going to be two things that everyone is going to focus on right from the start in a monk melee build:

1. Attack Speed
2. Damage

There's nothing else. I mean...there really is nothing else at that level. You can't really screw up the build. Fact is, some skills are decent, but most skills are garbage/untested and fall off after a handful of levels, with no way of upgrading them beyond your typical stupid passive such as:

"Increases your melee damage by .5% per light radius of nearest trans monster on Fridays between 8-9pm when the moon is full and crickets are playing poker on your front lawn."

I cannot help her... not without seeing her full build, without seeing all of her gear, passive tree and skill gems choices... if she's not willing to change her character to some of others skill, I wouldn't try to help her.

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Holigawd#2935 wrote:

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Vendetta#0327 wrote:

I think the discussion should end here, everyone quoting you telling you, you are wrong, are actually wrong and you are not wrong.

If you think the game is fun you should state what is fun about it, you should have a grasp upon what makes you happy or unhappy compared to a previous iteration. You do not have that, all you have is "I am not crying cuz I took my big boy pants on and do not want to rant"...

Tell us what you like in a patch that robbed you of the power you had, robbed you of the defensives you have, terribly unbalanced mobs life, terribly unbalanced the already big maps, made the game feel like a work day that just doesn't end, released a class that is subpar for now ( not that the others are doing any better), and brings nothing but bad terrible devisions...

Let us know what you like, until then you may not be factually wrong, but you are not entitled to call the game fun either..Just call it your personal opinion and stop quoting and commenting to others that they do not provide feedback, while they provide feedback in their own way and you are not.

They also told Pythagoras and Aristotle they were wrong when they stated the Earth was round. Look how that turned out? I'm not telling y'all to not dislike the game, I want y'all to have your opinions and to share them, but be constructive and leave the emotions at home where they belong... too many people come in here so overly emotional. Also your concept of "everyone" is like 2 people. Lol.

I don't need or care if y'all agree with me, you have opinions and I got mine. Pretending yours are correct, solely because it's what you believe, doesn't make it so.

I'm playing a huntress, enjoying it, gameplay is bouncy with the spear, what more explanation do you need? I don't feel weak, I kinda run through most things, groups sometimes will nuke me and that's cool, it happens. I don't know what type of answer you expected.

But yea, conversation with you, should end there.

So you want us to provide feedback but you don't provide yours...Adding Pythagoras and Aristotle to the discussion brings nothing of value to the discussion.

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Holigawd#2935 wrote:

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Xaaraax#1986 wrote:

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Holigawd#2935 wrote:

That's fair, some of the skills are a bit lackluster... I still am going to say it's the build, because of her skill choice is a part of that. If a build is failing, you take a step back and see what the issue truly is... maybe it's her choice of skills? Could be a number of things that's the issue. Have to exhaust all avenues before jumping the game and blaming everything else.

Ok, what is your suggestion to fix the build? Let's assume neither of us know what skill she is using from watching the video, but we can deduce that since it's a monk, it's melee. There are going to be two things that everyone is going to focus on right from the start in a monk melee build:

1. Attack Speed
2. Damage

There's nothing else. I mean...there really is nothing else at that level. You can't really screw up the build. Fact is, some skills are decent, but most skills are garbage/untested and fall off after a handful of levels, with no way of upgrading them beyond your typical stupid passive such as:

"Increases your melee damage by .5% per light radius of nearest trans monster on Fridays between 8-9pm when the moon is full and crickets are playing poker on your front lawn."

I cannot help her... not without seeing her full build, without seeing all of her gear, passive tree and skill gems choices... if she's not willing to change her character to some of others skill, I wouldn't try to help her.

I can share mine with you, I do almost no damage having 0 fun, can you fix it for me so I can have fun ? I will prove to you that you just yap without anything to cling on :)


https://ibb.co/mrDdhJD9 - Tree

Act 2 facing jamanra.
Skills : Skeletal warrior - meat shield / last gasp
Contagion : Arcane tempo, Magnified Effect
Essence drain : Chain, swift affliction, considered casting.

Withering pressence and convalescence because I have had some extra spirit

Ascension is not important, most of the lich ascendancies are defensive useful later on, or conditioned by power charges ( which can be generated with corpses that you do not have in boss fights, or requires energy shield which you might not have if you get hit)


My weapon : wand 29% increase chaos damage, 12% increase cast speed, 20% increased spell damage. The scepter does nothing to the damage, it's mostly there for having some meat shields...Rest of the gear does nothing to the damage, because it cannot roll damage rolls for chaos damage.

So how do I improve to have fun and beating jamanra

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Vendetta#0327 wrote:

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Holigawd#2935 wrote:

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Vendetta#0327 wrote:

I think the discussion should end here, everyone quoting you telling you, you are wrong, are actually wrong and you are not wrong.

If you think the game is fun you should state what is fun about it, you should have a grasp upon what makes you happy or unhappy compared to a previous iteration. You do not have that, all you have is "I am not crying cuz I took my big boy pants on and do not want to rant"...

Tell us what you like in a patch that robbed you of the power you had, robbed you of the defensives you have, terribly unbalanced mobs life, terribly unbalanced the already big maps, made the game feel like a work day that just doesn't end, released a class that is subpar for now ( not that the others are doing any better), and brings nothing but bad terrible devisions...

Let us know what you like, until then you may not be factually wrong, but you are not entitled to call the game fun either..Just call it your personal opinion and stop quoting and commenting to others that they do not provide feedback, while they provide feedback in their own way and you are not.

They also told Pythagoras and Aristotle they were wrong when they stated the Earth was round. Look how that turned out? I'm not telling y'all to not dislike the game, I want y'all to have your opinions and to share them, but be constructive and leave the emotions at home where they belong... too many people come in here so overly emotional. Also your concept of "everyone" is like 2 people. Lol.

I don't need or care if y'all agree with me, you have opinions and I got mine. Pretending yours are correct, solely because it's what you believe, doesn't make it so.

I'm playing a huntress, enjoying it, gameplay is bouncy with the spear, what more explanation do you need? I don't feel weak, I kinda run through most things, groups sometimes will nuke me and that's cool, it happens. I don't know what type of answer you expected.

But yea, conversation with you, should end there.

So you want us to provide feedback but you don't provide yours...Adding Pythagoras and Aristotle to the discussion brings nothing of value to the discussion.

You are the ones complaining... not me, so what is the problem?

You can check my recent posts, I stated it in every post I made but fine I will re-iterate.

1. General nerf to skill power coupled with a buff to minion life.
2. General lackluster release of the spear weapon. The new class might be good later on, but currently spear weapon is in a bad state, mostly due to how it scales at low level. Adding a frenzy charge generator skill is not a fix, but a bypass to the ideea that GGG want's us to use parry without any other option to build otherwise at lower level.
3. Ailment Threshold adjustments without giving anything back to the players to compensate that.
4. Long and un-rewarding fights.
5. Overlapping of disgusting modifiers that simply destroy the poor scale of your power at lower levels.
6. The current state of mapping, which rewards nothing for the risk they pose, and the fact that we were slowed to a snail compared to the mobs that feel like they never skipped a day at the gym.
7. Overall gear progression, which was bypassed by skills being meaningful, which is not the case now, and the gear seems to not keep the pace.
8. No real feeling of empowerment, you just feel weaker and weaker because your power was nerfed but the mobs were buffed...

Now I do not know how the end game is, with everything scaled up, but right now the definition of fun is non existing, with so many people out there stuck with progression and asking for help here and there because they hit a wall...

If you are having fun then it means you like to move like a snail going literally no were.

Instead of doing what 99% of players asked and crying for, they do absolutely different thing and then wonder what's happenneng?
Instead of nerfing they just destroy the build. Spraks was just destroyed as well as stackers, minions and a lot of other builds.

Why don't nerf them it but leave to be a still good build and buff other builds?

You want to increase difficulty? Ok, let's introduce new mods and mechanics, so players could just go to the next tier and increase difficulty along with new rewards.

No need to buff mobs on campaign - nobody asked for that!

Running campaign twice is booring itself, but running huge campaign where mobs can one shot you is jsut a torture, so you have to be focused for too much time. Players just tired from that, it's not a game...

We have no craft, we can't craft needed items trough campaign, we just have several tries to get random output and that's it.

We have no craft, no good uniqs, no movement abilities, archaic trade system that waste your time and nervous, we don't have good UI/UX, poor progression

We still have the best gameplay and graphic, but have no fun this league...