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hahaha "with people like this.. blablabla..." ok, now you're just arguing about how I write and how I think, isnt this about the game's campaign ?
When I call you out for doing the "we'll make it fun" bs where it's a completely empty promise with no concrete examples or ideas, and you agree that you're doing that and say that it doesn't matter and nothing I've said matters because your opinion is different, and also say not only do you not actually have any real reasons for your opinion but you don't need to provide reasons either, yeah it's pointless to hold a conversation like that.
No reason I give matters, you just dismiss them without addressing them and say you don't need to address them. And at the same time you give no reasons for anything.
It's not implied, you are overthinking stuff.
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There is real data, you do not own it tho.
There is no data on how the community as a whole feels about something unless GGG does a survey on it, which they haven't done.
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No point in argue against a weak statement.
You haven't argues against anything. You make things up or lie.
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No you're not pointing out, you simply didn't read and assumed the worst.
Again, this is your lack of reading comprehension not being able to understand the purpose behind what I was saying.
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There are, you may run 20 min to kill all rares, or find the boss.
Yeah but that would only be because your build clears slow, not because you are running around the map and backtracking looking for something. It's completely different.
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There are, you can do a side content non related to your goals, then you may say: "what a waste of time".
Again, not the same thing. This would be if the rewards are not good, which is just RNG. In campaign it's specifically because you are not progressing your quest objectives. Again with it being well known from PoE1 that doing league mechanics in campaign makes it take MUCH longer to complete.
Idk if you're intentionally being obtuse or it's just your lack of reading comprehension/critical thinking making you fail to understand and/or misrepresent what I'm saying.
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Loot is not worse, since wo then you cannot progress. Same as endgame, wo gear you cannot do content.
Again, can't tell if dishonest or dumb saying campaign loot isn't worse than mapping loot.
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The interview I listened to didn't mention what you wrote as "jonathan's words".
It's in the Dropped Frames podcast interview, you might be thinking of the Ziz interview.
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Yeah, I disagree, that we need a different way for ppl who do not like the campaign. I disagree that adding a different way to play the subsequent playthroughs have to differ from the main campaign. I do not disagree that different experiences can be obtained with different playthroughs.
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No, I do not like the solution you provided. Pretty bland. I'd ratter see another solution to the problem you are having.
I'd recommend you find better solutions, or give up on trying.
You say that people who are not having fun cannot have any solutions they propose to make the game more fun, and you propose nothing yourself, and you propose no actual reason why they can't have those solutions. You are an envious coward who enjoys schadenfreude and lacks empathy for people who do not have fun in the campaign.
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Posted by0Yemallis#2343on Apr 15, 2025, 8:49:26 PM
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hahaha "with people like this.. blablabla..." ok, now you're just arguing about how I write and how I think, isnt this about the game's campaign ?
When I call you out for doing the "we'll make it fun" bs where it's a completely empty promise with no concrete examples or ideas, and you agree that you're doing that and say that it doesn't matter and nothing I've said matters because your opinion is different, and also say not only do you not actually have any real reasons for your opinion but you don't need to provide reasons either, yeah it's pointless to hold a conversation like that.
No reason I give matters, you just dismiss them without addressing them and say you don't need to address them. And at the same time you give no reasons for anything.
It's not implied, you are overthinking stuff.
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There is real data, you do not own it tho.
There is no data on how the community as a whole feels about something unless GGG does a survey on it, which they haven't done.
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No point in argue against a weak statement.
You haven't argues against anything. You make things up or lie.
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No you're not pointing out, you simply didn't read and assumed the worst.
Again, this is your lack of reading comprehension not being able to understand the purpose behind what I was saying.
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There are, you may run 20 min to kill all rares, or find the boss.
Yeah but that would only be because your build clears slow, not because you are running around the map and backtracking looking for something. It's completely different.
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There are, you can do a side content non related to your goals, then you may say: "what a waste of time".
Again, not the same thing. This would be if the rewards are not good, which is just RNG. In campaign it's specifically because you are not progressing your quest objectives. Again with it being well known from PoE1 that doing league mechanics in campaign makes it take MUCH longer to complete.
Idk if you're intentionally being obtuse or it's just your lack of reading comprehension/critical thinking making you fail to understand and/or misrepresent what I'm saying.
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Loot is not worse, since wo then you cannot progress. Same as endgame, wo gear you cannot do content.
Again, can't tell if dishonest or dumb saying campaign loot isn't worse than mapping loot.
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The interview I listened to didn't mention what you wrote as "jonathan's words".
It's in the Dropped Frames podcast interview, you might be thinking of the Ziz interview.
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Yeah, I disagree, that we need a different way for ppl who do not like the campaign. I disagree that adding a different way to play the subsequent playthroughs have to differ from the main campaign. I do not disagree that different experiences can be obtained with different playthroughs.
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No, I do not like the solution you provided. Pretty bland. I'd ratter see another solution to the problem you are having.
I'd recommend you find better solutions, or give up on trying.
You say that people who are not having fun cannot have any solutions they propose to make the game more fun, and you propose nothing yourself, and you propose no actual reason why they can't have those solutions. You are an envious coward who enjoys schadenfreude and lacks empathy for people who do not have fun in the campaign.
Now u calling ppl dumb? well, this is sad, I really hoped for better arguments, it seems unfeasible, every single point I made still stands.
Hahaha "You are an envious coward who enjoys schadenfreude and lacks empathy for people who do not have fun in the campaign." that was fun to read.
No that's not me at all. In fact I suggest you to keep this post related to the OP instead of trying to enrage other users or trying to describe them, it's downright disrespectful and against the forum rules.
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Posted bySteamSkullerR#7239on Apr 15, 2025, 10:39:00 PM
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I remember the Delve league where there was no campaign, I think my brain exploded from dopamine.
Anyway, campaign once per league and then some way to boost it for alts, thats how I see it being good. Maybe some boss rush mechanic where you have access to waypoints before the act boss fights, but its up to you really (charlvl and gear) to be ready for the fights.
Pure campaign skip aint it, but like OP suggested, gamified way to "buy out" various campaign benefits for alts ? Why not, sounds like a fun mechanic and a money sink to boot.
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Hoo there wanderer... Last edited by Henide#3803 on Apr 15, 2025, 11:25:24 PM
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Posted byHenide#3803on Apr 15, 2025, 11:18:14 PM
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Campaign skip could have been available for those who passed the campaign last league. And if you're participating in current season, next season's campaign can be avoided again. No need to force players to play campaign every season. This is very outdated concept. Low-level "leveling" maps system would have been very interesting and refreshing mechanic. But for sure, if you're a fan of campaign you can chose to run it.
Definitely NO cross-league freebies, thats definitely not good. Ladder is ladder, everyone starts from 0. Theres always standard league.
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Hoo there wanderer... Last edited by Henide#3803 on Apr 15, 2025, 11:24:22 PM
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Posted byHenide#3803on Apr 15, 2025, 11:23:48 PM
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Now u calling ppl dumb? well, this is sad, I really hoped for better arguments, it seems unfeasible, every single point I made still stands.
Hahaha "You are an envious coward who enjoys schadenfreude and lacks empathy for people who do not have fun in the campaign." that was fun to read.
No that's not me at all. In fact I suggest you to keep this post related to the OP instead of trying to enrage other users or trying to describe them, it's downright disrespectful and against the forum rules.
You didn't make any points.
Your posting ultimately boiled down to "they shouldn't add any alternative to campaign and I will not give any explanation for why this should or any examples of improvements that will help people who don't like the campaign".
My description is completely accurate, but you probably don't understand what it means. And as usual you don't actually make any counterpoints, you just say "nope".
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Posted by0Yemallis#2343on Apr 15, 2025, 11:28:55 PM
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Now u calling ppl dumb? well, this is sad, I really hoped for better arguments, it seems unfeasible, every single point I made still stands.
Hahaha "You are an envious coward who enjoys schadenfreude and lacks empathy for people who do not have fun in the campaign." that was fun to read.
No that's not me at all. In fact I suggest you to keep this post related to the OP instead of trying to enrage other users or trying to describe them, it's downright disrespectful and against the forum rules.
You didn't make any points.
Your posting ultimately boiled down to "they shouldn't add any alternative to campaign and I will not give any explanation for why this should or any examples of improvements that will help people who don't like the campaign".
My description is completely accurate, but you probably don't understand what it means. And as usual you don't actually make any counterpoints, you just say "nope".
no worries, if that's what you think, let it be
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Posted bySteamSkullerR#7239on Apr 15, 2025, 11:42:05 PM
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no worries, if that's what you think, let it be
Thank you for continuing to prove my point.
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Posted by0Yemallis#2343on Apr 16, 2025, 12:44:00 AM
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