The campaign is WAY too long

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

Poe has a mountain of problems, but I sincerely don't understand why people are frustrated with the campaign length.

This game's retention lies solely in building a character, as isolated entity. Not in childish plot, not in wraeclast's common sense. Poe is an abstract toolbox for finding endless weird gimmicks and kill mobs with them. Diablo lore has more sense than poe, and D4 cutscenes are how one should make immersive world.

As long as you kill mobs and build your build, why does it matter on what map it happens?:) Each new act means more free maps you can grind. As for heavily juiced side content, low level characters won't clear it anyway. If you start doing maps from level 1, imagine amount of waystones and tablets you have to manually craft and corrupt. Imagine size of your atlas lol. As long as your level is low enough to get good exp in campaign, what is the problem?

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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

Poe has a mountain of problems, but I sincerely don't understand why people are frustrated with the campaign length.

This game's retention lies solely in building a character, as isolated entity. Not in childish plot, not in wraeclast's common sense. Poe is an abstract toolbox for finding endless weird gimmicks and kill mobs with them. Diablo lore has more sense than poe, and D4 cutscenes are how one should make immersive world.

As long as you kill mobs and build your build, why does it matter on what map it happens?:) Each new act means more free maps you can grind. As for heavily juiced side content, low level characters won't clear it anyway. If you start doing maps from level 1, imagine amount of waystones and tablets you have to manually craft and corrupt. Imagine size of your atlas lol. As long as your level is low enough to get good exp in campaign, what is the problem?

I think when people ask about 'campaign skip' they actually mean 'character boost' because their main argument is 'I want to play my build' which can't be done on low levels.

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

Poe has a mountain of problems, but I sincerely don't understand why people are frustrated with the campaign length.

This game's retention lies solely in building a character, as isolated entity. Not in childish plot, not in wraeclast's common sense. Poe is an abstract toolbox for finding endless weird gimmicks and kill mobs with them. Diablo lore has more sense than poe, and D4 cutscenes are how one should make immersive world.

As long as you kill mobs and build your build, why does it matter on what map it happens?:) Each new act means more free maps you can grind. As for heavily juiced side content, low level characters won't clear it anyway. If you start doing maps from level 1, imagine amount of waystones and tablets you have to manually craft and corrupt. Imagine size of your atlas lol. As long as your level is low enough to get good exp in campaign, what is the problem?

I think when people ask about 'campaign skip' they actually mean 'character boost' because their main argument is 'I want to play my build' which can't be done on low levels.

Character boost would equal just bringing your old characters in each new league. Which would be glorious actually:) But it would mean leagues would last a few days (as opposed to whooping few weeks now), and goes against everything GGG stands for: players should sloowly progress, occasionally regress, and suffer. Apparently it helps selling supporter packs.

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Warchant#2754 wrote:

The game is fundamentally monetized by returning players investing in long term enjoyment of multiple seasons. At the end of the day, few people are going to return to replay a slow, frustrating, repetitive campaign. They made a nearly single player sized campaign in a game that NEEDS an enjoyable, rewarding and REPEATABLE campaign to serve as a ramp to the end game content............ They will literally be forced to change this by their monetization scheme. It's only a matter of time before everything becomes smoother, faster and more rewarding, or the game flops, despite it's fancier graphics and animations. Period.

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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

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Warchant#2754 wrote:

The game is fundamentally monetized by returning players investing in long term enjoyment of multiple seasons. At the end of the day, few people are going to return to replay a slow, frustrating, repetitive campaign. They made a nearly single player sized campaign in a game that NEEDS an enjoyable, rewarding and REPEATABLE campaign to serve as a ramp to the end game content............ They will literally be forced to change this by their monetization scheme. It's only a matter of time before everything becomes smoother, faster and more rewarding, or the game flops, despite it's fancier graphics and animations. Period.

But there are players like me who enjoy doing 'nearly single player sized' campaign every season multiple times.

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Warchant#2754 wrote:

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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

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Warchant#2754 wrote:

The game is fundamentally monetized by returning players investing in long term enjoyment of multiple seasons. At the end of the day, few people are going to return to replay a slow, frustrating, repetitive campaign. They made a nearly single player sized campaign in a game that NEEDS an enjoyable, rewarding and REPEATABLE campaign to serve as a ramp to the end game content............ They will literally be forced to change this by their monetization scheme. It's only a matter of time before everything becomes smoother, faster and more rewarding, or the game flops, despite it's fancier graphics and animations. Period.

But there are players like me who enjoy doing 'nearly single player sized' campaign every season multiple times.

I am doubting there are enough to support the game for 13 years, which we already know will be done by the community that enjoys a focus on end game content over slogging through the campaign. It's a proven recipe. I wouldn't bet against it personally.