Act 3 needs to be remade.

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Johny_Snow#4778 wrote:

Joke's on you - Act 3 was also the worst in D2

That’s true but you could skip it in 2 minutes if someone gave you the travincal and durance of hate waypoints. You can’t do that in PoE2.
If they’d allow that, I’d have no issues with the PoE2 campaign as it is right now, I’d just get rushed most of the times

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onetruelai#7327 wrote:

I played both Diablo 1 and Diablo 2. I finished Diablo 1 maybe 4 times over several years, and Diablo 2 once. Same with Nox. There's only so many times i can listen to Griswold complaining about having seen his friends being slaughtered.

PoE is a seasonal game which supposedly can be played over and over for years, and therefore the endgame IS the game. There is no way around it.

Yeah, it is. And the campaign is there to gear you up, ramp your passive tree, set up your skill and support gems. Takes 15-20 hours and your good to go. On replay with additional characters in a season you'll get it down to under 10 hours. Idk what you want? Put in the game at level 65 with lvl 14 skills, each with 3-4 support gem sockets and an assortment of gear to be able to map?

Preferably a campaign that doesn't take my entire f** weekend to finish (that is if i don't die to azmadi or something). Some single player story-focused games are shorter than this. And you're only expected to finish them once, not every 4 months or every time you want to try a new build. And most have better story and actual cutscenes.

Look, poe1 campaign doesn't "put you in the game at level 65 with lvl 14 skills" but has a campaign length that fits a seasonal game.

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onetruelai#7327 wrote:

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Slart1bartfast#0332 wrote:

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onetruelai#7327 wrote:

I played both Diablo 1 and Diablo 2. I finished Diablo 1 maybe 4 times over several years, and Diablo 2 once. Same with Nox. There's only so many times i can listen to Griswold complaining about having seen his friends being slaughtered.

PoE is a seasonal game which supposedly can be played over and over for years, and therefore the endgame IS the game. There is no way around it.

Yeah, it is. And the campaign is there to gear you up, ramp your passive tree, set up your skill and support gems. Takes 15-20 hours and your good to go. On replay with additional characters in a season you'll get it down to under 10 hours. Idk what you want? Put in the game at level 65 with lvl 14 skills, each with 3-4 support gem sockets and an assortment of gear to be able to map?

Preferably a campaign that doesn't take my entire f** weekend to finish (that is if i don't die to azmadi or something). Some single player story-focused games are shorter than this. And you're only expected to finish them once, not every 4 months or every time you want to try a new build. And most have better story and actual cutscenes.

Look, poe1 campaign doesn't "put you in the game at level 65 with lvl 14 skills" but has a campaign length that fits a seasonal game.

what you can finish POE 1 campaign in like 6 hours. That is not fun for everyone. You want that kind of stuff go play POE 1. GGG has made it clear they want a different audience and different style for POE 2. I don't get the whole "make poe 2 identical in every way to poe 1". It is not smart for a business at all. Make 2 games capture two audiences and when the dust settles you have 2 really great games that both communities love.

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I don't get the whole "make poe 2 identical in every way to poe 1". It is not smart for a business at all.

poe 1 dies every time a season of poe 2 opens up. They made their own competitor.

If they want poe 2 to live long, they'll need to shift some things around, with some time, people will just stop caring about the poe 2 campaign due to the hassle.

I'm really probably going to be playing only 1 every 3 seasons of poe 2, I really don't want to have to deal with this campaign every 3 or 4 months.

Diablo 2 campaign is good enough and has enough ways for you to skip it if you want
Diablo 3 campaign was so bad that they even "removed" it
Diablo 4 campaign is so bad they even "removed" it

poe 1 campaign is seamlessly integrated into building your character and making into mapping, perfectly tailored over years and years of building the game.

So yeah, in this case, I do want poe 2 campaign to feel like poe 1. I don't care that much about other stuff, but the situation of act 3 specifically is terrible at this moment.

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Takalol#4981 wrote:

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I don't get the whole "make poe 2 identical in every way to poe 1". It is not smart for a business at all.

poe 1 dies every time a season of poe 2 opens up. They made their own competitor.

If they want poe 2 to live long, they'll need to shift some things around, with some time, people will just stop caring about the poe 2 campaign due to the hassle.

I'm really probably going to be playing only 1 every 3 seasons of poe 2, I really don't want to have to deal with this campaign every 3 or 4 months.

Diablo 2 campaign is good enough and has enough ways for you to skip it if you want
Diablo 3 campaign was so bad that they even "removed" it
Diablo 4 campaign is so bad they even "removed" it

poe 1 campaign is seamlessly integrated into building your character and making into mapping, perfectly tailored over years and years of building the game.

So yeah, in this case, I do want poe 2 campaign to feel like poe 1. I don't care that much about other stuff, but the situation of act 3 specifically is terrible at this moment.

If poe 1 dies everytime poe 2 comes around...what does that tell you? That the community at large prefers this kind of content and gameplay.

I love the campaign personally but can see how some people who want to rush to end game don't like it. I know GGG has stated that the campaign should be fun and that the end game is not the end goal. WHich seems to align with a lot of people playing as they have access to so much more data. GGG made POE 1 a fantastic game and they def will do the same here. Just gotta trust the process.

POE 1 campaign was to streamlined. If you played it more than 3 times you can do the entire campaign in like 6-10 hours. I also don't understand the rush to endgame as this important thing. For me personally its all about the level 1-90. Once you get to 80-90 then its like ok let me slam these 100 to make a couple divs to trade so i can slam 100 maps a little faster.

If you don't have a campaign the economy is gonna be inflated within hours and that is just gonna turn everyone off. The fact is you have a small portion of people who don't have lives who can spend 18 hours a day playing and just owning the entire economy.

Act 3 is def a drag though. I think they can cut it or trim it by like 30%.

+1 i feel the same way, Act 4 is Excellent 👍

Act 3 doesn't need to be remade, you however need to stop playing PoE2 since you do not like it and obviously prefer PoE1 so please let PoE2 enjoyers enjoy their game while you enjoy the games you enjoy. You only feel the need to play because the name of the game...well it's the number 2, not 1 and number 2 is different, accept the situation or LEAVE.

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onetruelai#7327 wrote:

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Slart1bartfast#0332 wrote:

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onetruelai#7327 wrote:

I played both Diablo 1 and Diablo 2. I finished Diablo 1 maybe 4 times over several years, and Diablo 2 once. Same with Nox. There's only so many times i can listen to Griswold complaining about having seen his friends being slaughtered.

PoE is a seasonal game which supposedly can be played over and over for years, and therefore the endgame IS the game. There is no way around it.

Yeah, it is. And the campaign is there to gear you up, ramp your passive tree, set up your skill and support gems. Takes 15-20 hours and your good to go. On replay with additional characters in a season you'll get it down to under 10 hours. Idk what you want? Put in the game at level 65 with lvl 14 skills, each with 3-4 support gem sockets and an assortment of gear to be able to map?

Preferably a campaign that doesn't take my entire f** weekend to finish (that is if i don't die to azmadi or something). Some single player story-focused games are shorter than this. And you're only expected to finish them once, not every 4 months or every time you want to try a new build. And most have better story and actual cutscenes.

Look, poe1 campaign doesn't "put you in the game at level 65 with lvl 14 skills" but has a campaign length that fits a seasonal game.

I Love poe2 campaign style. Its not about just reaching the endgame while you press "frostblink" and "shield charge" until the end as fast as possible. You actually need to think. And overcoming its challenges is half the fun for me.
Poe1 you just Rush campaign, eternal labs, atlas in 1 day, farm for 1 week and quit because, well, it gets boring fast.

Its Nice to actually see steamers struggling in some bosses.

But, i aggree with you about alts. Running all over again for the second time in the same league is a chore.

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Hyperspacing#5593 wrote:

what you can finish POE 1 campaign in like 6 hours. That is not fun for everyone.

It has been fun for enough people to keep PoE1 in the status of THE ARPG for over a decade.

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It is not smart for a business at all.

What isn't smart is make a sequel that targets a completely different audience than the original. As for the "new audience" i don't think they'll stick around for more than a few leagues, and those that will remain will 100% change their opinion about what a campaign length in a seasonal game should be.

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Warrax#2850 wrote:

Act 3 doesn't need to be remade, you however need to stop playing PoE2 since you do not like it and obviously prefer PoE1 so please let PoE2 enjoyers enjoy their game while you enjoy the games you enjoy. You only feel the need to play because the name of the game...well it's the number 2, not 1 and number 2 is different, accept the situation or LEAVE.

uhh I didn't know you were the one to keep the holy gates of the game?
I'm only expressing my opinion here, that act 1 is great, act 2 is kinda ok, act 3 is pure bad, it's as if quality drops to negative levels, and then act 4 is by far the best, it's not like I'm saying the whole game is bad... I like every single aspect of the game but a single act and you're here talking about me not playing this ever again?