Remove Divine Orb Eldritch altars

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x__Holy_One__x#9005 wrote:

You couldnt add the one line of the quote of me acknowledging that I seem to be the only one having that opion?

Those apples and oranges comparisons with other" high payout systems" make no sense to me, because you are missing my point.

Everybody understood your point. It is just not valid.

Your point is that you think divines drops due to Eldritch Altar interation are too rewarding and therefore you fell yourself compelled to use them otherwise you are afraid to be missing an oportunity of a "big reward".

What we all are trying to tell you is: No, it is not that rewarding, it is very rare and you are wrong.

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x__Holy_One__x#9005 wrote:

Those apples and oranges comparisons with other" high payout systems" make no sense to me, because you are missing my point.

I'm NOT missing your point: you are purposely taking your own observation completely out of context to illustrate a "problem" which doesn't exist.

You are missing your own point lol.


Altars are endgame juice: the purpose of them existing is to increase rewards. If you want to make the point that something is "overtuned" for rewards, then you need to take the ENTIRETY of that mechanic into account, and compare it to all the other choices you COULD make instead. Again....see my comment about awakened multistrike dropping (the equivalent of "getting a divine altar" in terms of reward).

You are doing none of that. And this is why, as you observed, you are basically the odd-man-out here.

The divine altar is equivalent to a "rare drop", perhaps far less valuable than most "rare drops". And you are calling for it's removal because it is too rewarding. That is your point. It's crystal clear for everyone....it just isn't a valid statement when you put it INTO context of every other juicing strategy of the endgame. Namely...comparing it to red altar and maven, since those are mutually exclusive. Overall, even when factoring in your 20+divine map, the blue altars are the least valuable of the three options available. And you want to make it worse.

Basically...you are applying Gambler's Logic: because you got that ONE big payout, you "expect" it to happen again, or even expect it at some sort of regular frequency. This incorrect assumption is the entire basis of your point and opinion. Like the gambler that sits at a table and says to themselves "I haven't won in a while, I'm due to win big".

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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Again, this is not my point.

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TrunksD2#2172 wrote:

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x__Holy_One__x#9005 wrote:

You couldnt add the one line of the quote of me acknowledging that I seem to be the only one having that opion?

Those apples and oranges comparisons with other" high payout systems" make no sense to me, because you are missing my point.

Everybody understood your point. It is just not valid.

Your point is that you think divines drops due to Eldritch Altar interation are too rewarding and therefore you fell yourself compelled to use them otherwise you are afraid to be missing an oportunity of a "big reward".

What we all are trying to tell you is: No, it is not that rewarding, it is very rare and you are wrong.

This is my point to which I say, fair enough. Im still most likely going for Eldritch this league, so lets see...

Isn't Maven nerfed hard anyways because no more awakened gems and you are more than ever inclined to run eldritch altars?

Or did they come up with sth for Maven in maps?

Bosses can drop astrolabes and exceptional supports, so Destructive Play and invites will have some good rewards

edit: You need the Originator Watchstone to enable these drops

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twostroketom#5281 wrote:

Bosses can drop astrolabes and exceptional supports, so Destructive Play and invites will have some good rewards

THat's good to hear.

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twostroketom#5281 wrote:

Bosses can drop astrolabes and exceptional supports, so Destructive Play and invites will have some good rewards

edit: You need the Originator Watchstone to enable these drops

Wonder if shaper guards would be good.

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x__Holy_One__x#9005 wrote:

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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Again, this is not my point.

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TrunksD2#2172 wrote:

Everybody understood your point. It is just not valid.

Your point is that you think divines drops due to Eldritch Altar interation are too rewarding and therefore you fell yourself compelled to use them otherwise you are afraid to be missing an oportunity of a "big reward".

What we all are trying to tell you is: No, it is not that rewarding, it is very rare and you are wrong.

This is my point to which I say, fair enough. Im still most likely going for Eldritch this league, so lets see...

Dude....I literally said EXACTLY the same thing, what are you on about? Twice now. I even used the same words lol.

To quote my own post that you snipped: "And you are calling for it's removal because it is too rewarding. That is your point."

The other half...the compulsion to run them...is everything else I wrote. A false "gambling" compulsion that is your problem, not the game balance's problem. Basically exactly what the other guy wrote in his last sentence.

So where did MY post get your point wrong again?



It's so frustrating to me when I see someone snip my whole post without reading it.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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x__Holy_One__x#9005 wrote:

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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Again, this is not my point.

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TrunksD2#2172 wrote:

Everybody understood your point. It is just not valid.

Your point is that you think divines drops due to Eldritch Altar interation are too rewarding and therefore you fell yourself compelled to use them otherwise you are afraid to be missing an oportunity of a "big reward".

What we all are trying to tell you is: No, it is not that rewarding, it is very rare and you are wrong.

This is my point to which I say, fair enough. Im still most likely going for Eldritch this league, so lets see...

Dude....I literally said EXACTLY the same thing, what are you on about? Twice now. I even used the same words lol.

To quote my own post that you snipped: "And you are calling for it's removal because it is too rewarding. That is your point."

The other half...the compulsion to run them...is everything else I wrote. A false "gambling" compulsion that is your problem, not the game balance's problem. Basically exactly what the other guy wrote in his last sentence.

So where did MY post get your point wrong again?



It's so frustrating to me when I see someone snip my whole post without reading it.

To be fair with you, I was about to say that u said what I said in even better words, and in better english (I am not native english speaker).

But I guess since he said he gonna do Altars anyway, there is no point to argue anymore. Maybe after some days farming altar with just one or none Divines he will change his mind.

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TrunksD2#2172 wrote:

To be fair with you, I was about to say that u said what I said in even better words, and in better english (I am not native english speaker).

hehe that's too funny. Problem was I tried explaining things a bit too much.

No one ever wants to understand why they are wrong.