Why POE2 is dying

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

Hahahaha. I just realized that this is the 2nd post by the OP about this same topic in as many days. Looks like he abandoned the first try because of 21 pages of responses showing he was wrong. Yep....a new thread will certainly prove different!

Even seems to think the game has "dropped"....ignoring the fact that we are currently in EA which is just a fancy name for "beta" (which OP even claims is needed in his post).

When you are wrong, you are wrong. And when you double and triple down with multiple threads, it makes you look that much more foolish.

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eldheim#2436 wrote:

How about you do better -argue my points, instead of sitting in moms dank basement trolling? I doubt you have the IQ nor the personality to engage in a constructive dialogue, but go ahead, put me to shame.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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outlander19900#0213 wrote:

Is he lying?

I wouldn't call it "lying". He's just 100% wrong, and won't listen to anyone who explains why. He even calls out anyone who would correct him BEFORE he makes any points.

Not lying...just incorrect and a spammer.

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eldheim#2436 wrote:

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

Hahahaha. I just realized that this is the 2nd post by the OP about this same topic in as many days. Looks like he abandoned the first try because of 21 pages of responses showing he was wrong. Yep....a new thread will certainly prove different!

Even seems to think the game has "dropped"....ignoring the fact that we are currently in EA which is just a fancy name for "beta" (which OP even claims is needed in his post).

When you are wrong, you are wrong. And when you double and triple down with multiple threads, it makes you look that much more foolish.

I made a new post because people like YOU cried that there weren't any solutions in the first iteration.

So I made clarifications.

And to address your claim that 21 pages of posts "proved me wrong".
No, most of the ACTUAL feedback that contended with the issues agreed.
There was, however a lot of really impolite people trying to shame me with no actual arguments.
Just like in this post.

How about you do better -argue my points, instead of sitting in moms dank basement trolling? I doubt you have the IQ nor the personality to engage in a constructive dialogue, but go ahead, put me to shame.

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Nyon#6673 wrote:

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eldheim#2436 wrote:

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

Hahahaha. I just realized that this is the 2nd post by the OP about this same topic in as many days. Looks like he abandoned the first try because of 21 pages of responses showing he was wrong. Yep....a new thread will certainly prove different!

Even seems to think the game has "dropped"....ignoring the fact that we are currently in EA which is just a fancy name for "beta" (which OP even claims is needed in his post).

When you are wrong, you are wrong. And when you double and triple down with multiple threads, it makes you look that much more foolish.

I made a new post because people like YOU cried that there weren't any solutions in the first iteration.

So I made clarifications.

And to address your claim that 21 pages of posts "proved me wrong".
No, most of the ACTUAL feedback that contended with the issues agreed.
There was, however a lot of really impolite people trying to shame me with no actual arguments.
Just like in this post.

How about you do better -argue my points, instead of sitting in moms dank basement trolling? I doubt you have the IQ nor the personality to engage in a constructive dialogue, but go ahead, put me to shame.

The lesson to learn is that you made alot of valid points but you ruined it with your stupid title and your false blanket statements about how the game is doing.
The game is doing fine by any metric you would want to use. But its early access and it needs constructive feedback.

So you would be better off posting your feedback minus your fake doomsday tales

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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eldheim#2436 wrote:

Disclaimer:

I already know a few elite GGG bootlickers will spam this comment section telling me I don't understand charts or numbers, that its "normal", or "everything is fine", or "play something else -stop whining".
Let them. It's all they do, all the time, and we can't stop it.

You know why you might keep getting those responses? There are multiple reasons but the big two are:
1) The numbers show the exact opposite of what you claim, and also prove that you do NOT know how to read charts and graphs and refuse to learn.

2) You even decided not to even provide whatever numerical data you are claiming because....it doesn't exist. Which is actually even worse than misrepresenting it.


I am not happy with the state of the game. I don't play anymore. But it most certainly is NOT dying at the moment. It WILL see a massive decrease in 3-4 weeks if there isn't a major content update though.

Using the collective "we" to try to appeal to a broader base and single out those who point out your mistakes doesn't make the original comment any less wrong or unfounded. You know who starts comments like that? Setting up the us vs. them BEFORE you even begin? People who are generally wrong and know they are wrong.

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eldheim#2436 wrote:

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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eldheim#2436 wrote:

Disclaimer:

I already know a few elite GGG bootlickers will spam this comment section telling me I don't understand charts or numbers, that its "normal", or "everything is fine", or "play something else -stop whining".
Let them. It's all they do, all the time, and we can't stop it.

You know why you might keep getting those responses? There are multiple reasons but the big two are:
1) The numbers show the exact opposite of what you claim, and also prove that you do NOT know how to read charts and graphs and refuse to learn.

2) You even decided not to even provide whatever numerical data you are claiming because....it doesn't exist. Which is actually even worse than misrepresenting it.


I am not happy with the state of the game. I don't play anymore. But it most certainly is NOT dying at the moment. It WILL see a massive decrease in 3-4 weeks if there isn't a major content update though.

Using the collective "we" to try to appeal to a broader base and single out those who point out your mistakes doesn't make the original comment any less wrong or unfounded. You know who starts comments like that? Setting up the us vs. them BEFORE you even begin? People who are generally wrong and know they are wrong.

I gave the numbers. As has many others.
You just need to google POE2 steam charts.
They do not show the opposite. You are downright LYING, and worse, you know you are.

I use the collective "we" because 200k players have left the game already, and there are probably 200 posts from people with the same issues, and thousands of people upvoting them.
So yeah, I can use the collective "we".

We have already seen the massive decrease. In 3-4 weeks with no major overhauls there will be less than 10% left, in a game that promised about 250 hours of content. Considering the average player plays about 2 hours a day, that means the game failed massively.
A good game retains the player base and increase the first month. THEN declines. An ARPG with endgame, and 12+ build archetypes for replayability should do even better.

Instead it's doing much, much worse.

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QticaX#4168 wrote:

This is stupid... everyone understands its EA and it's the most successful EA release ever.. just because you're having a hard time doesn't mean the game is dying look at the steam charts it's not even close to dying as in what happen to Diablo 4... no remotely close... and this is EA just sit down kiddo and quit.



That looks like the normal drop off after around 200-300 hours for casuals leaving.

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eldheim#2436 wrote:

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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eldheim#2436 wrote:

Disclaimer:

I already know a few elite GGG bootlickers will spam this comment section telling me I don't understand charts or numbers, that its "normal", or "everything is fine", or "play something else -stop whining".
Let them. It's all they do, all the time, and we can't stop it.

You know why you might keep getting those responses? There are multiple reasons but the big two are:
1) The numbers show the exact opposite of what you claim, and also prove that you do NOT know how to read charts and graphs and refuse to learn.

2) You even decided not to even provide whatever numerical data you are claiming because....it doesn't exist. Which is actually even worse than misrepresenting it.


I am not happy with the state of the game. I don't play anymore. But it most certainly is NOT dying at the moment. It WILL see a massive decrease in 3-4 weeks if there isn't a major content update though.

Using the collective "we" to try to appeal to a broader base and single out those who point out your mistakes doesn't make the original comment any less wrong or unfounded. You know who starts comments like that? Setting up the us vs. them BEFORE you even begin? People who are generally wrong and know they are wrong.

I gave the numbers. As has many others.
You just need to google POE2 steam charts.
They do not show the opposite. You are downright LYING, and worse, you know you are.

I use the collective "we" because 200k players have left the game already, and there are probably 200 posts from people with the same issues, and thousands of people upvoting them.
So yeah, I can use the collective "we".

We have already seen the massive decrease. In 3-4 weeks with no major overhauls there will be less than 10% left, in a game that promised about 250 hours of content. Considering the average player plays about 2 hours a day, that means the game failed massively.
A good game retains the player base and increase the first month. THEN declines. An ARPG with endgame, and 12+ build archetypes for replayability should do even better.

Instead it's doing much, much worse.