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its one league. they've heard the feedback. the next one will be better. simple as that. poe2 is not doomed. Jonathan is not some eldritch demon that the rest of the dev team is keeping at bay. just keep the constructive criticism up and don't be hateful and the game will improve.
Here are two key problems with this way of thinking.
1. This is not some brand new ARPG, they do in fact have years of POE development behind their backs and yet they make same mistake that were already fixed in POE.
2. The more important one. They $#%#@@ poe on the altar of poe2, and that makes it perfectly reasonable to be angry about it.
3. Oh and i have every intention to show what i think about it with my wallet.
I think the first point is probably the most daming one. When ppl talk about "they made things from PoE1 worse in PoE2", they not only refer to "zoom-zoom boom-boom" builds. It's about mechanics and QoL too.
It's an insult that the PoE community had to fight for so many QoL improvements in PoE1, and then after years we finally got them, but now, with PoE2 - they ignore it and go back without the QoL.
Do we have to fight for years AGAIN? I bet most are sick like me and drained by the "feel the weight" and "friction" nonsense, only because they hate QoL.
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Posted byJakkerONAIR#4902on Apr 20, 2025, 2:35:47 PM
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"There is no build diversity"
Oh, I think mostly everybody here (on the forums, in general) is understating this one fact. I made a post on here about it: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3768512
I didn't actually say anything about it in the post itself. It's just a video on build diversity and how restrictive it is. This video needs to spread like a fucking wildfire until GGG acknowledges and addresses it.
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Posted byAulyx#1181on Apr 20, 2025, 2:54:48 PM
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short answer, yes
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Posted byPl4t1numX#4325on Apr 20, 2025, 2:58:21 PM
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its one league. they've heard the feedback. the next one will be better. simple as that. poe2 is not doomed. Jonathan is not some eldritch demon that the rest of the dev team is keeping at bay. just keep the constructive criticism up and don't be hateful and the game will improve.
Here are two key problems with this way of thinking.
1. This is not some brand new ARPG, they do in fact have years of POE development behind their backs and yet they make same mistake that were already fixed in POE.
2. The more important one. They $#%#@@ poe on the altar of poe2, and that makes it perfectly reasonable to be angry about it.
3. Oh and i have every intention to show what i think about it with my wallet.
I do agree that killing all support for poe1 was a very bad idea and its very understandable to be pissed off by that. I mainly am irritated by the doomer mentality of people acting as if poe2 is over due to one bad patch, I came in new to poe2 so I don't know too much of the history of poe1 development but currently it seems that their response to feedback has been very quick and targets a lot of the main points. I think the idea behind the game is to genuinely make combat a good mix of can rush through but not like everything is made of paper or takes 100 hours to get to actual difficulty, but I think that's just a very hard thing to do especially when running off of what is apparently a lot of stuff ported from poe1 (idk how true that is but i've heard a lot of people saying that and they'd know better than me). I just have a lot of faith since I can see a really good game here and I truly hope that comes to fruition.
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Posted bytebbbi#9392on Apr 20, 2025, 3:10:28 PM
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"There is no build diversity"
Oh, I think mostly everybody here (on the forums, in general) is understating this one fact. I made a post on here about it: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3768512
I didn't actually say anything about it in the post itself. It's just a video on build diversity and how restrictive it is. This video needs to spread like a fucking wildfire until GGG acknowledges and addresses it.
Im in a guild with a bunch of players and every single one of us is using a completely different build and we all discuss other builds we think we can do. Anyone who says there is no "build diversity" needs to hop off of the streamers balls and do what the rest of us are doing...called making our own builds,trying things out and if they fail fix it.
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Posted byHyperspacing#5593on Apr 20, 2025, 3:13:29 PM
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He thinks he knows what the players want, better than the players themselves.
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Posted byXyrian1988#2315on Apr 20, 2025, 3:28:22 PM
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Who's alt account is this?
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"There is no build diversity"
Oh, I think mostly everybody here (on the forums, in general) is understating this one fact. I made a post on here about it: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3768512
I didn't actually say anything about it in the post itself. It's just a video on build diversity and how restrictive it is. This video needs to spread like a fucking wildfire until GGG acknowledges and addresses it.
Im in a guild with a bunch of players and every single one of us is using a completely different build and we all discuss other builds we think we can do. Anyone who says there is no "build diversity" needs to hop off of the streamers balls and do what the rest of us are doing...called making our own builds,trying things out and if they fail fix it.
Have you watched the video I linked in my post? Obviously not. Go watch it, then come back and say this again.
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Posted byAulyx#1181on Apr 20, 2025, 4:00:08 PM
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I do agree that killing all support for poe1 was a very bad idea and its very understandable to be pissed off by that. I mainly am irritated by the doomer mentality of people acting as if poe2 is over due to one bad patch, I came in new to poe2 so I don't know too much of the history of poe1 development but currently it seems that their response to feedback has been very quick and targets a lot of the main points. I think the idea behind the game is to genuinely make combat a good mix of can rush through but not like everything is made of paper or takes 100 hours to get to actual difficulty, but I think that's just a very hard thing to do especially when running off of what is apparently a lot of stuff ported from poe1 (idk how true that is but i've heard a lot of people saying that and they'd know better than me). I just have a lot of faith since I can see a really good game here and I truly hope that comes to fruition.
Look the GGG is known for their responsive changes and making good game. I am sure they will make poe2 pretty good. The issue is that they are making same mistakes for no good reason. I also disagree with Jonathan's vision in some key parts but that is my my personal problem. Don't let this thread to push you way from poe2. It is a good game, it is just quite a bit worse then poe1 right now, i dont see it steering towards becoming better then poe1.
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Posted byDeathfairy#1490on Apr 20, 2025, 4:01:49 PM
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He thinks he knows what the players want, better than the players themselves.
Players want different things.
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Posted byDeathfairy#1490on Apr 20, 2025, 4:02:35 PM
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