Vaal skills are basically a giant noob trap.

I cannot even count the times I have read stuff like "this will never work" or "now that you nerfed CI / CWDT / LA / IR it will be useless and never used!!!". And almost every time these naysayers were wrong.

We don't know, which new uniques would work in synergy with these new items. We don't know how the new talent tree looks like. Maybe you have new keystones, that have synergy with Vaal skill gems.

You have very limited information and you jump to conclusions -.-

I'm mostly worried how to survive reflect packs with these ultimate skills...

Also, wonder how it interacts with totems...

What I find really funny about this, is that it probably comes from the same type of person that complains that people tend to over emphasize a single skill in this game. Then they complain that a second skill added is a "noob trap". Perhaps this isn't meant as a primary skill.

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Veta321 wrote:

So, ETA on 8socket armors?

ofc, never heard of corrupted 8L kaoms heart?
#796769

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

If a person is dumb enough to unleash their ultimate attack on critters with damage reflection, they deserve what happens next.

Since most of the skills we've seen chain uncontrollably, it's not really out of the question for them to chain offscreen, and there's going to be times that reflect mobs are there waiting. Personally I'm not too thrilled so far. Most of the regular skills can be spammed, are much more controllable and are able to obliterate enemies in a matter of seconds. But we've only seen the tip of the iceberg so far.

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Alhoon wrote:

Since most of the skills we've seen chain uncontrollably, it's not really out of the question for them to chain offscreen, and there's going to be times that reflect mobs are there waiting.

This is what "sacrifice" in "sacrifice of the vaal" stands for.
HC player sacrificing himself to Standard, offscreen!

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Alhoon wrote:

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

If a person is dumb enough to unleash their ultimate attack on critters with damage reflection, they deserve what happens next.

Since most of the skills we've seen chain uncontrollably, it's not really out of the question for them to chain offscreen, and there's going to be times that reflect mobs are there waiting. Personally I'm not too thrilled so far. Most of the regular skills can be spammed, are much more controllable and are able to obliterate enemies in a matter of seconds. But we've only seen the tip of the iceberg so far.

Also there's off-screen reflect packs, or even that sudden extra fast reflect monster that runs into the pack you're fighting just as you trigger your skill...

If playing hardcore, one such situation is enough to retire the character.

Guess that's fine though, just means it's less useful in hardcore outside specific builds that can handle any amount of reflect (vaal pact, etc)

This is how i would like Vall gems to work:

1.- They give you the normal and Vall version of the skill.
2.- All kills charge souls no matter witch skills you use to score them.
3.- The Vall version of the skill is manually cast, no auto-cast when you have enough souls.

In a week we will know for sure how they work.

seems like we need to up the # of skills that can be keybound!

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Terrornoid wrote:

Basically, only Vaal Skills that are able to focus a lot of damage onto a single target will get used commonly. Few niche builds may find use for others. Oh and just a reminder, this isn't about rather or not the gems will be usable. It's about rather or not they are more efficient/effective than simply using what we've had this whole time.

I am looking forward to those, but as far as we have seen, it's all aoe for the Vaal gems.