Vaal spark

It's getting buffed actually, because arc is getting buffed.
So there's less of a momentum issue next patch.

I don't want them to nerf it because I like OP things.
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Last edited by Vhlad#6794 on Dec 7, 2015, 3:00:33 PM
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Vhlad wrote:
It's getting buffed actually, because arc is getting buffed.
So there's less of a momentum issue next patch.


If you are playing a Vaal Spark build, then every second you spend without sparks shooting out your ass is a second of you playing a bad Arc build.
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XCodesLIVE wrote:
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Vhlad wrote:
It's getting buffed actually, because arc is getting buffed.
So there's less of a momentum issue next patch.


If you are playing a Vaal Spark build, then every second you spend without sparks shooting out your ass is a second of you playing a bad Arc build.


They need a new alternate skill effect for spark... that's brown.
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XCodesLIVE wrote:
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Vhlad wrote:
It's getting buffed actually, because arc is getting buffed.
So there's less of a momentum issue next patch.


If you are playing a Vaal Spark build, then every second you spend without sparks shooting out your ass is a second of you playing a bad Arc build.


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All agree that its 20% faster than full mirrored best builds and noone seems to see its A bad thing :D

Welcome to all VS Talizman league. Everyone with enough cash will be running vaal spark just because there is nothing wrong in investing 10ex to clear faster than 1% off gear best of the best optimized clear speed builds.

It's fucking sad you dont see the problem... And im sure there will be a next mongloid posting some shit like:
"NOONE IS FORCING YOU TO NOT PLAY VS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE"

Such points are so demn valid.

If with same investment as mirrored split arrow, it would clear faster. I would just say its thx to the way skill is working. But right now its just stupidly OP.
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Last edited by eragon1111#0889 on Dec 7, 2015, 5:53:22 PM
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TheAshmaker wrote:
Its fine. It does what it does well, but isnt dominant at every aspect of POE.


Sure it's not the best at everything. Only at gaining XP and farming items...

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XCodesLIVE wrote:
Look, 130 hours of play time to 100 is actually pretty average these days. Havoc did it in about 95 with SRS


lol
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eragon1111 wrote:
All agree that its 20% faster than full mirrored best builds and noone seems to see its A bad thing :D

Welcome to all VS Talizman league. Everyone with enough cash will be running vaal spark just because there is nothing wrong in investing 10ex to clear faster than 1% off gear best of the best optimized clear speed builds.

It's fucking sad you dont see the problem... And im sure there will be a next mongloid posting some shit like:
"NOONE IS FORCING YOU TO NOT PLAY VS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE"

Such points are so demn valid.

If with same investment as mirrored split arrow, it would clear faster. I would just say its thx to the way skill is working. But right now its just stupidly OP.


Actually, Talisman League is going to be a boss-focused league. You're going to want to kill rares and bosses to get the Rank 1 talismans, and you're going to have to fight stronger rares and bosses to rank up the talismans. Vaal Spark can kill weak rares, but if they pop with one or both ele resist mods then you're going to be fighting them with an underpowered Arc, if you can even kill them.

Vaal Spark will get played, but Flame Totem/Incinerate Totem/Searing Bond is likely going to be far more consistent.
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XCodesLIVE wrote:
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eragon1111 wrote:
All agree that its 20% faster than full mirrored best builds and noone seems to see its A bad thing :D

Welcome to all VS Talizman league. Everyone with enough cash will be running vaal spark just because there is nothing wrong in investing 10ex to clear faster than 1% off gear best of the best optimized clear speed builds.

It's fucking sad you dont see the problem... And im sure there will be a next mongloid posting some shit like:
"NOONE IS FORCING YOU TO NOT PLAY VS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE"

Such points are so demn valid.

If with same investment as mirrored split arrow, it would clear faster. I would just say its thx to the way skill is working. But right now its just stupidly OP.


Actually, Talisman League is going to be a boss-focused league. You're going to want to kill rares and bosses to get the Rank 1 talismans, and you're going to have to fight stronger rares and bosses to rank up the talismans. Vaal Spark can kill weak rares, but if they pop with one or both ele resist mods then you're going to be fighting them with an underpowered Arc, if you can even kill them.

Vaal Spark will get played, but Flame Totem/Incinerate Totem/Searing Bond is likely going to be far more consistent.

This OR

"WTB TALIZMANS TIER 1 - 20:1 ex Have many!!" :)
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its definitely up there- its clearspeed is insane and as such its up there solely because of that.

but according to my 3 pillars of an op build,
1. fast clear speed CHECK, CHECK and MORE CHECK. great for fast trash clears for mf/xp gain. not so amazing for bosses unless in small corridors.
2. good survivability - eh...
3. minimal investment in damage - arguable.

so in its defense, there are a couple of 'issues' with it that make it at least appear not 'as op' as other op skills.

1. you have to invest into it on your tree. ie, compared to lets say incinerate in which you choose your defense as you want whereas you dont need many damage skills, you have a much more rigid structure. you have to have the right specific jewels. you have to have skill duration, etc. you have to build for it. you cant just throw a lvl 20 gem on like you could with flameblast and you can right now with incinerate and expect it to work right off the bat. so point 3 is arguable. you cant level as a vaal sparker. and good luck playing it SSF or something.

2. ele reflect is brutal in ele reflect maps, you have to either VP or trap or topaz every time you use vs (great way to die when you forget to do it). so point 2 gets iffy- again you are forced into certain playstyle. you dont have much freedom and ability to stack survivability either. this usually isnt the case with op builds. if reflect comes back (I hope it does in general, but thats another story) in its full glory, you would be forced to take VP/trap because a burst of VS will easily murder you in dried lake.

3. still need to get souls initially. thats the bane of all vaal skills, but its been made easier with jewels.

historically, vaal skill builds that do not provide close to 100% uptime were never considered op. I can see sacrificial harvest/chill of corruption get nerfed before vaal spark, because theyre real culprits- but you never know with GGG. to me, it's clear that if even the best vaal skill cannot achieve close to 100% or comparable uptime to deal fast with big packs, it's never finna be too op.

TL;DR: yes its op, but its real power comes from jewels. nerf the jewels and its probably in a good palce.

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