Solo Self-Found Support in 2.6.0

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MAD_DAN wrote:

Finally, this will clearly show how inept drop rates are and that the game is unplayable without trading.

Oh man. 1 have how 10! stash tabs with uniques, 4-5 exalts dropped this league, so drop rates are fine :) Even in SSF i will get almost all I want, for sure, not the perfect ones that i got this league via trading :)

I play SSF mostly/completely myself depending on my mood, but I still think this "feature" is completely and utterly pointless. SSF is about the fun factor of doing it and the personal satisfaction - Path of Exile is simply too easy and random a game for ladders to have much point, and it's getting easier all the time. PoE's difficulty would have to be ramped back up to the days of yore before this SSF league idea would have any point in regular permanent or challenge leagues. Something like this should be reserved solely for racing, where the difficulty and consistency do get ramped up. Fixed seed contributes a lot to making bragging rights actually matter instead of being a matter of whether someone got lucky or not.

Also, there are various problem areas obvious from the start. Chris has always claimed the answer to stash tabs not being P2W is that you can multiaccount for more space - that's probably going to break under this. And depending on how it's done the league progress migration may also have some serious caveats keeping it from being smooth.

It would be far better (and somewhat simpler) to just run a 1-3 month fixed-seed BLAMT or Winterheart SSF league as its own thing. The whole "merge back in at will" thing is, well, pretty dumb and useless.

for me this was never interesting in any way. bring a good next league!

the path of exile just got a bit more lonely

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Despite the addition of this mode, Path of Exile is still designed and intended to be multiplayer with partying and trading.

Am I missing something? When does one ever party up with someone unless it's for trading?

Would it be correct to assume that temp league SSF players will not have to accomplish the same number of temp league challenges in order to qualify for the challenge rewards? Only about half of the challenges are really feasible in SSF mode and so I kinds feel that the challenge list ought to be either halved or altered for them for them so as to allow them a decent shot at challenge completion since they don't have the outsized advantage that trading and partying gives you in completing some of the challenges in the main game (and they shouldn't be forced to play a league they don't like just to gather challenges).

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Twiiik wrote:

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Despite the addition of this mode, Path of Exile is still designed and intended to be multiplayer with partying and trading.

Am I missing something? When does one ever party up with someone unless it's for trading?

When you have friends that don't run coc discharge and are actually tolerable or even fun to be around.

Yes, they do exist! Getting them to actually play PoE instead of League or other games just keeps getting harder, though.

And partying for maps and dailies is actually pretty standard... it's just private groups are 9050% better than public ever will be for numerous reasons, childish behavior, skill spam and mtxes among them.

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GenocYda wrote:

Not sure how to feel about this, I guess there really isn't anything wrong with this feature and some people might find it helpful/fun, however, I always did think that aRPG games were a lot about trading by nature, since there only are limited amount of items that will be useful for certain characters and the chance of finding them on your own seems rather tiny, so without trading it really isn't possible to achieve full efficiency, unless you are extremely lucky and it makes grinding in certain situations rather useless, since you probably will be looking for a certain unique to improve your gear, in which case grinding becomes much less efficient, since most gear will be rendered useless by natures, since you can't trade/change it to something useful.

I guess that maybe I'd say that GGG resources should be applied elsewhere, but the developement of the game seems to be good enough for me to not complain about the speed of updates.

Of course you can't start the league with a build that requires very specific unique items. But when you find some specific items you can decide to create a new char to use them. That's one of the things (with crafting) you enjoy doing in SSF.

Most SSF players don't really care about perfect items, and probably won't achieve very end-game content (t15-16 maps, shaper, uber atziri), but this doesn't matter, they enjoy the game differently.

I played SSF a lot in Diablo 2, I'll enjoy this new league :)

let's just not fix trading or game performance so we can play in party without the game freezing every 20 sec instead let's just complicate things and have people play retard mode alone for the game to run ok and without trading coz we don't wanna fix trading, makes no sense instead of fixing problems just add the retard mode to the game, if the game is too easy make the game hard again easy as that...