PoE2: One death in map and its bricked.

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Jerexil#5282 wrote:

I am a more carefuly player. I am old and never had best reactions.
For me dying in PoE is always the greatest fault which could happen.

Only in campaign I sometimes take high risc to spare time or very rarely kill an act boss by "dying".


When I look at my deaths:

About

25% bad performance = PoE doesn't react in time = no chance for me

25% mob mods and rolls combine to a "unpredictable singular" damage peak
when I come back mob(s) don't do any notable damage
I would call this deaths "one shots" even if it were a few hits

50% I make a mistake:
too many mobs, wrong positioning, too much risc, mob too strong


That means for me: 1/2 of my deaths aren't my faults, they happen by design!

If that would brick a map even after only 1 death - very bad idea.
It would be create a similar bad feeling as when I loose hours of xp because of high level death penalty.

I like the idea boss gets life back when you die - if 100% or some lower % is best - I don't know.

PoE has more "random" deaths than any other ARPG I know.

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

but the boss reset doesn't exist in PoE2... what is the point you trying to make?

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onexxx#0361 wrote:

That one death map idea sounds quite bad to me, coming from PoE 1 it raises a lot of concerns. Softcore deaths should not feel that bad in my opinion, there are others game mode to make deaths that impactful.

While I do agree that there is an issue with bossing in maps in PoE1, they already showed us that PoE2 bosses in acts will reset if you die. I don't get why it can't just be like that in maps, with 6 portals. It does not allow you to just go into the encounter and expect that DPS and a few deaths gets you trough it, while allowing for mistakes and pattern learing in a not too frustrating way. With death xp penalty still there, that sounds balanced to me.

Last point, coming from PoE1, we all know that some wierd things can happen while mapping, one shot on random rare with decent SC characters are a thing. With maps bricking if that happens, I think it adds too much frustration and friction to the endgame.

Of course, maybe all thoses concerns will vanish once in game, without testing it's hard to just say "it's bad". I just hope that they might go a step backwards on that idea if beta feedback on that isn't good.

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Morae#1328 wrote:

There is nothing fun about one attempt = bricked.

The first time that happens for me for something "important", I will likely quit. I feel my time will have been wasted and cant bother to find another. I did not even get to learn it. Why should I expect next attempt to go any different? That I would waste my time just to fail again.

No, that wont happen.


There is no enjoyment in it.

I'm ok with failure having a cost, but this will be rather than failure has a cost, ATTEMPT has an extreme cost.

Put it the other way around. Have attempt to have little to no cost, but have a failure cost. That is... if you really want to punish us on failure. Failure itself is already a punishment, I think.

What this cost of failure is could easily be cost of "refreshing" the node. Finding another is bad.

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bcain1787#6308 wrote:

Nice post. I am torn until I get my hands on it. I see positives and negatives to the 1 death system. Time will tell.

I could see them making a currency item that can renew a failed map zone.

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FearZGamer#6190 wrote:

All this means is that the gameplay wont be "turn off brain and map" like is in POE1.

If you play a build like LA, you have your brain turned off and if you die "oh well", back in again. 1 portal makes it so you cant have that type of no thought gameplay.

Good.