POE 2 Complete PC Freeze while loading screen

Hey guys just want add my expirience.
I start play on day 2 just after i check performance on youtube
my system is old that why i wait a day.
(AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor 3.70 GHz all on default even cpu boost disable,
GTX 1660 super 6GB with MSI undervolt a little so my card even in hard load dont pass 68-70 Memory Nvidia driver(566.36)
RAM 2x8GM 3200mhz speed Windows 10 Home 22H2,
i play all low 1440p with FSR balanced)
i play 4 character for this time Spark Archmage And Warcry warrior both i got to lvl 90+ +2 ranger got to map complete map quest and do bosses so i farm map with many breach(with dense points) with delirium and other content on map)
until today i have any big problem maybe 3-4 crush on desktop for all time,but today i star Mercenary(Gemling legioner) stat stacker that use thunder fury(some skill with stuff that allow you to movement and attack) and at act 3 first location after i full clear sand territory i go to little forest territory i use this skill for movement but its 0 mobs on screan when my monitore just go in sleep mod in second my mouse stop working same us keyboard,
and i mean that my mouse and keyboard even stop lights no power usb i guess and monitor stop receive any video sygnal and headphone stop any sound my pc is working but not reacting for anything its not react on reset or power button but all cooler spinning and mother board have light in it, onli thing that help is button on power supply) after i shut down it and then start in 3 min all load good and all working but maybe it me i dont even think to start game again but remember its happend to me not on loading and i play with msi afterburn monitor so my cpu and gpu work complete fine when its happend and i dont even fight mobs just run around with this skill in use for movement dont know just want share it atlest for me its very strange event

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AnubisXT#0335 wrote:

So I'll ask you straight up, Why would you think it happens in Linux and Windows alike? Seeing how there system resources are handled entirely differently and their kernels aren't even remotely similar.

I believe there are a lot of shared pieces of code for both type of drivers to make the development more consistent and platform-independent. For example, I found this article in the docs, it describes the CUDA compiler architecture from the user point of view, including GPU compilation (keep in mind - only kms have direct access to the hardware).

NVIDIA CUDA Compiler Driver NVCC
or this one
CUDA Driver API
Look, the user-side functionality prvided by cuda.dll or cuda.so is identical. Sure from that document we cannot see the internal parts of the kernel modules.

So, I suppose we have more than one contributing factor as the other users already told and we have a lot of shared or very similar pieces of the code for the all types of the drivers, dictated by the architecture and platform independency. Sure, I can be wrong but from my point of view if isolated user mode app locks the entire system not allowing to process hardware interrupts - the problem(s) lie(s) way deeper than in ring 3.

I'd be glad if some users with integrated GPU or Intel Arc shared their experience.

PoEuncrasher + Vulkan + Switching to a higher/emptier Global Chat channel # has stopped my crashes.

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Stormscourge#2254 wrote:

Switching to a higher/emptier Global Chat channel # has stopped my crashes.

Finally someone developed the actual fix. Thank you. I also tried to feed my dog but without success. But when I fed both dog and cat, the crashes gone. Feel free to use my method.

....aaaaaaaand right after I posted that, my PC hard crashed again.

:(

My luck ran out. Went 3 days without a crash until just now.

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cursorTarget#1174 wrote:

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AnubisXT#0335 wrote:

So I'll ask you straight up, Why would you think it happens in Linux and Windows alike? Seeing how there system resources are handled entirely differently and their kernels aren't even remotely similar.

I believe there are a lot of shared pieces of code for both type of drivers to make the development more consistent and platform-independent. For example, I found this article in the docs, it describes the CUDA compiler architecture from the user point of view, including GPU compilation (keep in mind - only kms have direct access to the hardware).

NVIDIA CUDA Compiler Driver NVCC
or this one
CUDA Driver API
Look, the user-side functionality prvided by cuda.dll or cuda.so is identical. Sure from that document we cannot see the internal parts of the kernel modules.

So, I suppose we have more than one contributing factor as the other users already told and we have a lot of shared or very similar pieces of the code for the all types of the drivers, dictated by the architecture and platform independency. Sure, I can be wrong but from my point of view if isolated user mode app locks the entire system not allowing to process hardware interrupts - the problem(s) lie(s) way deeper than in ring 3.

I'd be glad if some users with integrated GPU or Intel Arc shared their experience.

This still wouldn't answer why AMD GPU users are crashing seeing how CUDA is only on Nvidia platforms. Doing a quick google search for it most of the users that are crashing in Linux are using AMD GPUs so thinking this is an Nvidia specific problem is blown out of the water and I'd highly doubt AMD and Nvidia drivers are remotely similar.

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3060TI

I was able to downgrade from 24H2 to 23H2, as I had upgraded to 24H2 about a week ago. No issues so far for several hours (previously I was hard locking every ~30 mins). I've been monitoring CPU utilization since the downgrade, and it's still spiking to 100% across all cores when loading, but again - no locks so far.

Worth mentioning - a user "makedir" in the poeuncrasher issues comments cited KB5041587 (a CPU scheduler optimization) as the culprit. This is part of 24H2, and an optional update with 23H2. Interestingly, after I rolled back, KB5041587 was no where to be found on my machine. Whether I never installed it, or MS has yanked it as an optional update, I'm not sure. My point here is that if you're on 23H2 and still having locks, see if the update is installed. If you'd like to test, you can launch cmd or powershell as and admin, and remove it with wusa /uninstall /kb:5041587

Do I really need to run a 3rd party exe file in order to play this game on a new PC? I assume PoEUncrasher isn't malicious, but the fact remains that this is a bit silly..

If this has been going on since PoE1 -- as others have claimed -- I don't envision a legitimate fix for this anytime soon.

Back to Diablo 4...

I got the same issue with this game, no other game do it.
PC completely freeze up when loading map. Can move mouse, unable to interact with windows and the game. Unable to F4+ alt to close the game, Unable to CTRL+ALT+DEL to shut down windows. Only way to close the game is shut down windows with Holding power button down.
I found it reducing the CPU core the game uses seen to help. I unselect the core in set affinity for POE 2 after the game has started.

Went 3 days without crash. Now they restarted the server and in my first login after the restart I froze again. It is so frustrating.