Trading Is A Very Bad Experience in POE2

Trading and waiting for people to be online is very archaic and serves no purpose. Just like walking in person delivering files. I guess you don't understand analogies. Yes we should use this archaic trading method because the bots are too strong instead of finding ways to combat bots. Even though bots are already manipulating the market.

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Chuchu_Flamingo#4717 wrote:

Trading and waiting for people to be online is very archaic and serves no purpose. Just like walking in person delivering files. I guess you don't understand analogies. Yes we should use this archaic trading method because the bots are too strong instead of finding ways to combat bots. Even though bots are already manipulating the market.

That's why I said you didn't read the whole passage. I of course understand analogies but that's not the main point.
Trading being slow is intentional and it's the main point of the manifesto. Trading is important but that should not be too convenient to make the game like a trade-simulator and there were already some "hideout warriors" that only trade to earn instead of playing the game in poe1 even it's this inconvenient.

I guess you didn't even try solo-self found mode before.

I've never seen a better trading system. I've played WoW, D3, and any game with an actual auction house.

The game should have an auction house system similar to World of Warcraft, but with one key difference: to list an item in the auction house, you would need to pay an equivalent fee in orbs based on the item's level or value (or whatever), rather than using gold becouse we cant trade gold and I like that. This would prevent gold trading and help control both item and price inflation. I don’t believe anyone can convince me that the current system is effective — it’s slow, clunky, time sink and inefficient. It takes ages to detect the market conditions to value a certain item.

another idea is still you can preven instant, just let seller put item, buyer offers)bid), seller agree (or not and wait for better bids) and boom! trade done. also you can do exactly like WoW with buyout option for both seller and buyer for instant trade. so which means, I can sell items while iam away with buyoutprice or i can check bids to accept if iam in game. easy and juicy

also bid duration may be short. maybe 30 minutes. becouse i might not need that item after 30 minutes or something. or let us pick the bid duration, 30 min, 1 h, 2hour etc.

Also dear GGG, you can make a new Auction House Stash tab to sell and recive items. and sell it ^^

There will be and nor should there BE a AH -

If you want something then you either

A - Buy it from the existing system
B - Craft it
C - Loot it

Having AH in ARPG is a bloody awful idea, there are way to many outcomes for 1 piece of gear it would make it a nightmare then you have the technical issues that have plagued other developers in things like Duping that is VERY easy on AH - Last Epoch got killed by duping , and dont think its only small, Duping in D4 was ripe, so if blizz cant stop it with their resources what hope for GGG

Or would you rather the relatively small development team be removed from improving the game play jsut because youre a lazy **** and cant be bothered to take 2 mins to buy from someone.

Do you go to the local shops and bang on the door or do you shop when they are open, and guess what thats how the Auctions work in POE -0 if they aint on, the shop is closed.

Currently the market is in crazy flux because no-one has a clue, and as its still in development the end game is merely stockpiling currency and thus creating MAhooosive inflation..

So no, NO AH and if you dont like, then dont use go SSF

Everquest 2 had better trading You post an item in the trading vender and when sold you get a tell that the funds are in your account. The same thing the other way when buying the item is in your account no need to talk meet or haggle.

I don't think there should be a true auction house, but I think the trade experience needs to be improved. They need to bring the trade website capabilities in-game. It needs to take away the friction of going outside of the game to trade for good items. Being able to purchase and search in game without having to wait for someone to be online would be great.

I myself don't enjoy having to leave the game to trade. However I don't think we need a full auction house, that doesn't sound like a proper solution either.

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Shadeghost31#9254 wrote:

Dude its beta the Auction isnt in the game yet

And never will be. Unless we convince them to make one that currently, they do not want to make.

PoE1 has gone it's entire lifespan with trading working the exact same way it currently works in PoE2. No auction, no anything, just players have to message each other and meet up. GGG does not want to proved an in game function of any kind.
If you want them to, we have to convince them they're wrong.

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binarynotfound#0402 wrote:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2025870

Check out the trade manifesto from Chris 7 years ago.
Sometimes it's easy to say why don't do this why don't do that without ever thinking.

We've read Chris's words before, and the only takeaway continues to be that Chris has no idea what he's talking about, and lacks the ability to form an accurate conclusion about trading systems, and the comparison of having them vs not having them.
Chris is wrong. Plain and simple.

I don't want an auction house.
I want to buy directly via an in-game UI.
Done and dusted.
I'm sick of wasting countless hours trying to buy something only do deal with all the bots scammers and bullshit.