100k left your game GGG

And I wonder how many due to ascendancies.

You picked two of the most hated, and definitively most random mechanics from leagues in POE1 as your trials. Who in your studio thought this was a good idea?
I'm genuinely curious.

It's the worst decision made in POE2 by some margin. And spending some time in the forum confirms this is true for 99% of players. I haven't seen a single person endorsing it, nor defending any criticism it gets.
Not ONE.

The statement "Ascendancies are trash" is the least contended criticism on this forum.

- They are hugely unfair
- They are massively random
- They take a lot of time
- They don't have infinite tries
- They cater to specialized builds, while punishing others
- They are not fun

And you made it part of the mandatory part of the game, where each build gets their biggest and most important power spike.

I LONG for Izaro uber labs with a no regen glass cannon build, compared to these trials.

Do I want the lab back? No. But I would do ten of them over another ultimatum or sanctum run.

This is a no brainer, GGG:

Release ascendancy points for all classes at the end of acts in the campaign.
At least until you have a fair, working, and level trial that is accessible for all build archetypes at the same reference point.

At this point I don't even beg for the trials to be fun, -they SHOULD, I just want them to be fair and doable, not random and gated behind drops.

100k people have been filtered. That's a good thing. The game shouldn't be for everyone.

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hboi#6131 wrote:

100k people have been filtered. That's a good thing. The game shouldn't be for everyone.

Celebrating potential players and costumers being "filtered" is not a sustainable business model. I would agree that the current trend isn't going to tell us if the game will succeed of fail since it is EA and only a week out. You cheering on and commenting on every post that has some who is having trouble with the game or is finding hard to continue is not helpful for the community of the growth of POE 2. If you really like POE 2 as much as it seems maybe you should be offering to other players better understand the game, instead of mocking them or celebrating them leaving.

OP, the 100k player drop is nothing unexpected. Initial surge is always going to be massive, and as people play things out (some folks have already put over 100 hours) and just over time, there is generally always some form of decline. Looking at Steamdb charts shows that things are still pretty damn healthy. Yes, there are some very valid criticisms (Ascensions are the worst thing ever for folks who don't play a minion or ranged oriented build, hands down there is no argument there. And the mechanic itself is pure junk to me) present, but it does appear, for now, that we just have a lot of very vocal folks. Take a gander at the charts over Friday, Saturday and Sunday to see the real story, the peaks will probably still be pretty healthy.

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hboi#6131 wrote:

100k people have been filtered. That's a good thing. The game shouldn't be for everyone.

Go be elitist somewhere else. Your comment is neither wanted nor needed and adds nothing but your stinking condescension to the thread.

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hboi#6131 wrote:

100k people have been filtered. That's a good thing. The game shouldn't be for everyone.

This comment is so absurdly stupid, it's not even a good trolling.

Reading your comments, all you do is trying to wind people up by being obnoxious. It doesn't make you a good troll. ....it just makes you an obnoxious person.

Do better.

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eldheim#2436 wrote:

This comment is so absurdly stupid, it's not even a good trolling.

Reading your comments, all you do is trying to wind people up by being obnoxious. It doesn't make you a good troll. ....it just makes you an obnoxious person.

Do better.

This forum is inundated with this behavior

I like sanctum tho. It is easier in poe 2 and more fun to me. But still probably too hard on leveling.

100k left in 2 weeks is 25% of concurrent player is something happens every league. I don't see here a huge problem considering it is early access with limited content and endgame especially.

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spacecowboy2011#1120 wrote:

OP, the 100k player drop is nothing unexpected. Initial surge is always going to be massive, and as people play things out (some folks have already put over 100 hours) and just over time, there is generally always some form of decline. Looking at Steamdb charts shows that things are still pretty damn healthy. Yes, there are some very valid criticisms (Ascensions are the worst thing ever for folks who don't play a minion or ranged oriented build, hands down there is no argument there. And the mechanic itself is pure junk to me) present, but it does appear, for now, that we just have a lot of very vocal folks. Take a gander at the charts over Friday, Saturday and Sunday to see the real story, the peaks will probably still be pretty healthy.

Yeah, of course there is going to be a tapering off.
It doesn't make it less relevant as to why.

If you have a company and just looks at a graph that lost 100k from Thursday to Thursday peak -which they did, and just go "Oh well, it's just the way of life I guess", shareholders probably won't be impressed.

POE1 had a steady 100k each league. 200k the last few ones.

If PEO2 loses just 10% due to ascension being horrible, that is a huge loss that could, and should have been easily adressed.

That is my point.

Its mid week. The player base is always going to drop with time, even PoE doesn't maintain 500k concurrent. Its normal and natural.

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dar1us#7393 wrote:

I like sanctum tho. It is easier in poe 2 and more fun to me. But still probably too hard on leveling.

100k left in 2 weeks is 25% of concurrent player is something happens every league. I don't see here a huge problem considering it is early access with limited content and endgame especially.

Do you think GGG cares about why 100k left?

Or do you think they shrug and go "meh, whatever"?

I'm certain there will be big changes. I asked for changes since this ascendancy got released. I know it would be trouble.
I'm not asking them to remove the two mechanics.

I'm asking them to release all builds from this sweaty RNG fest until they have a better working trial.
If that can save them 10% of the players that quits, it's actually huge numbers, for an easy fix.
Because they can fix it easily.