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Yes, it is EA and OP builds will emerge.. however there are that many with such power that it pretty much loses any sense to do anything else than mash 1 button. The game completely lost it's uniqueness.
Bosses which were supposed to be kind of a staple of PoE 2 are dead before their first move.
Slow and methodical gameplay which was promised multiple time is gone and it is back old overstimulating zoom-zoom PoE1 crap.
We don't need to wait 3 months for new economy reset. Its EA, nuke this OP shit to the ground now, that's what EA is for, to have drastic changes.
Just so you know what I'm talking about in case you haven't noticed:
Killing monsters pretty much offscreen and zooming like Formula 1
https://youtu.be/GO80dGk8iL0?t=137
Shitting every spell on entire screen at once
https://youtu.be/6LgeAfNhbOc?t=33
Simulacrum completed AFK
https://youtu.be/mcx_VyY_tRI?t=69
Endgame bosses deleted within seconds
https://youtu.be/WZnIzDfyK-k
Some specific skills and builds need like 80% power and speed nerf, maybe even more.
At this point, I got over a mirror's worth of divines into my build. So yeah, mofaka, I'm going to want my build to trivialize maps and bosses. It's like you don't even understand wtf PoE is about.
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When will you understand that the game is made for builds that clean the screen as quickly as possible... When you play t15 distilled into breach is that there are 50 thousand enemies jumping on you you are obliged to clean everything as quickly as possible possible...The game is made to be played quickly, it's not a souls game where you generally fight 1 against 1, I think we tried it but it failed.
Yes, what he said.
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Posted byHwtChirino#2462on Jan 22, 2025, 10:34:39 PM
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I'd just be happy if I could put together a build of my own and not get absolutely wrecked in low rank maps.
I made it through the campaign without much issue on a merc with lightning rod and the shotgun lightning ability and had a ton of fun with it but the moment I hit maps it fell off hard and I just abandoned the character for something else since the respec cost at the time was so high.
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Posted byWesir54#7389on Jan 22, 2025, 10:44:32 PM
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Your post assumes GGG sees this as an issue.
They don't.
Just watch the most recent Q&A where they state that the current endgame loop is what they intended for PoE 2. In other words: PoE 2 endgame = PoE 1 endgame
By the way, I never understood why some people are like you. Why do you want GGG to nerf builds to the ground? If you don't think the playstyle is fun, just play other types of builds, no need to ask GGG to take the fun away from others.
If you're honestly interested in why:
because the game inevitably becomes balanced around those strongest meta builds. Which means the game requires playing the strongest meta builds or you're playing wrong.*
Case in point lets say the OP stuff kills bosses in 5 seconds with no need to roll any mechanics. They don't like this so they add 10x hitpoints to bosses to get that TTK (Time to kill) up to almost a minute of fighting. Forcing the player to at least dodge roll 2 mechanics instead of none.
Now lets consider a "normal build" thats not OP at all, that previously killed that boss in lets say 2-3 minutes of sweaty dodge rolling (lets say 10 rolls), methodically Armour breaking followed by a Hammer of the Gods in (lets just say) 5 well timed rotations.
Now we need 20-30 minutes, 100 dodge rolls and 50 well timed rotations.
This is why the OP stuff must be nerfed.
* This very thing has happened in POE1 (and countless other games). Large swaths of the POE1 player base spent multiple years exclaiming how bad build diversity was and how many builds and playstyles are "not viable" because the top end builds are so vastly more powerful, this has lead to multiple leagues where 30% to even as high as 40% of all players were using the same skill/build/style. This is why "just don't play it if you don't like it" doesn't actually work.
Not to mention that OP builds set the pace of the economy for the next four months. Expensive OP builds make catching up to and competing with the rest of the league economy that much harder, especially if you come into the league more than two weeks past the start.
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Posted byGwonam#5505on Jan 22, 2025, 10:53:36 PM
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Yes, it is EA and OP builds will emerge.. however there are that many with such power that it pretty much loses any sense to do anything else than mash 1 button. The game completely lost it's uniqueness.
Bosses which were supposed to be kind of a staple of PoE 2 are dead before their first move.
Slow and methodical gameplay which was promised multiple time is gone and it is back old overstimulating zoom-zoom PoE1 crap.
We don't need to wait 3 months for new economy reset. Its EA, nuke this OP shit to the ground now, that's what EA is for, to have drastic changes.
Just so you know what I'm talking about in case you haven't noticed:
Killing monsters pretty much offscreen and zooming like Formula 1
https://youtu.be/GO80dGk8iL0?t=137
Shitting every spell on entire screen at once
https://youtu.be/6LgeAfNhbOc?t=33
Simulacrum completed AFK
https://youtu.be/mcx_VyY_tRI?t=69
Endgame bosses deleted within seconds
https://youtu.be/WZnIzDfyK-k
Some specific skills and builds need like 80% power and speed nerf, maybe even more.
Trade league issues.
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Posted byLaiTash#6276on Jan 22, 2025, 10:55:35 PM
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Delete trade league, trade mode in games is a mistake.
Hell I don't even disagree but GGG sure does.
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
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Posted byalhazred70#2994on Jan 22, 2025, 11:08:33 PM
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Delete trade league, trade mode in games is a mistake.
Hell I don't even disagree but GGG sure does.
Go play ssf, trade league is fine.
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Posted byKnuk#4425on Jan 22, 2025, 11:16:09 PM
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Delete trade league, trade mode in games is a mistake.
Hell I don't even disagree but GGG sure does.
Go play ssf, trade league is fine.
I am currently in SSF. But thanks to trade my experience feels roughly identical to that of loading some terrible mod where the author put decimals in front of every drop rate using search/replace and made no other actually interesting modifications because SSF is "a special challenge mode" which apparently means it needs to have trade balanced drop rates.
(AKA lazy lowest possible effort feature)
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years. Last edited by alhazred70#2994 on Jan 22, 2025, 11:33:30 PM
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Posted byalhazred70#2994on Jan 22, 2025, 11:32:34 PM
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Your post assumes GGG sees this as an issue.
They don't.
Just watch the most recent Q&A where they state that the current endgame loop is what they intended for PoE 2. In other words: PoE 2 endgame = PoE 1 endgame
By the way, I never understood why some people are like you. Why do you want GGG to nerf builds to the ground? If you don't think the playstyle is fun, just play other types of builds, no need to ask GGG to take the fun away from others.
Because they also said Path of Exile 2 is different from Path of Exile 1. If the endgame is the same, why bother to have Path of Exile 2?
And who is the other?
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Posted byDutchMilk#4689on Jan 23, 2025, 4:58:15 AM
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yeah, mofaka, I'm going to want my build to trivialize maps and bosses. It's like you don't even understand wtf PoE is about.
Like i previously said, PoE 2 is about what GGG will make it about, and we are yet about to find out what it is.
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Posted bySuchka_777#4336on Jan 23, 2025, 5:08:44 AM
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Yes, it is EA and OP builds will emerge.. however there are that many with such power that it pretty much loses any sense to do anything else than mash 1 button. The game completely lost it's uniqueness.
Bosses which were supposed to be kind of a staple of PoE 2 are dead before their first move.
Slow and methodical gameplay which was promised multiple time is gone and it is back old overstimulating zoom-zoom PoE1 crap.
We don't need to wait 3 months for new economy reset. Its EA, nuke this OP shit to the ground now, that's what EA is for, to have drastic changes.
Just so you know what I'm talking about in case you haven't noticed:
Killing monsters pretty much offscreen and zooming like Formula 1
https://youtu.be/GO80dGk8iL0?t=137
Shitting every spell on entire screen at once
https://youtu.be/6LgeAfNhbOc?t=33
Simulacrum completed AFK
https://youtu.be/mcx_VyY_tRI?t=69
Endgame bosses deleted within seconds
https://youtu.be/WZnIzDfyK-k
Some specific skills and builds need like 80% power and speed nerf, maybe even more.
Welcome to NOT Darksouls/Elden Ring copy...
It's a real pleasure for me to see all these ‘Git Gud’ trolls and other people who thought GGG would listen to them more than the old PoE1 players, complaining that Path of Exile 1 is too similar to Path of Exile 2. Guys, the name is exactly the same, there's only one number that changes.
For all those who are fed up with trades, you can simply play in SSF.
Just because you're frustrated you are not are able/not willing to one shot all the screen doesn't mean you have to wish those who enjoy it to loose it... Your mentality is sickening...
"To entertain doubt is to dance with death"
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Posted byTalamor1#0630on Jan 23, 2025, 5:51:02 AM
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