Listening to the community too much is what ruined PoE 1 for many of us.

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1453R#7804 wrote:

Watched the community go from a salty-at-times but fairly reasonable batch of folks to the worst, most toxic, xenophobic, and thoroughly awful batch of people I've ever encountered in gaming.

Don't pretend the PoE2-side is any better because I've seen some posts before mods intervened and the amount of unreasonable vitriol I witnessed was typical of what you could see in CS:GO or DotA2. Some people just take advantage of the chance to "defend" a game to start insulting other people (and even other nationalities).
People trying to ridicule a game, that the very same company they're trying to defend made, and its players with extremely negative comments (like PoE1 players are -a series of terms I can't reproduce-, don't listen to criticisms just listen to "people who think like me", PoE1 is the worst game ever made for -a series of terms I can't reproduce-, etc) are only going to attract more negative people and deter any potential positive content because "reasonable people" see this crazy circus and turn around and go back to playing.

So if you recycle PoE1's most zoom-zoom leagues and you're getting the other side of the same coin when it comes to the community how is PoE2 going to be any different in the future? You can't brute-force your wishes into reality, you have to be an active part of the change.

And, for the record, I have nothing against civil PoE2 players (there's very helpful and kind people in both games) or the idea of the devs to make something different from PoE1.

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1453R#7804 wrote:

Watched the community go from a salty-at-times but fairly reasonable batch of folks to the worst, most toxic, xenophobic, and thoroughly awful batch of people I've ever encountered in gaming.

I think this is rich coming from someone who can't debate anything without hyperboling everything into oblivion, and can't talk about PoE1 without stereotyping all PoE1 players into derogatory boxes, ridiculing them into some sort of lesser human beings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9NYDgbKsBE

Some noisy people say "ZOOM ZOOM is bad, it's not a game play", but many ARPG player want ZOOM ZOOM, one button or zero button play, no dodge and facetanking, because ARPG is not an action game, but a build simulator.

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AYRE_LOVE#3388 wrote:

Some noisy people say "ZOOM ZOOM is bad, it's not a game play", but many ARPG player want ZOOM ZOOM, one button or zero button play, no dodge and facetanking, because ARPG is not an action game, but a build simulator.

Of course they want it. Take a look at lightning spear in PoE2, one button brain dead build played by 55% of the playerbase. Least effort, fully screen explodes and visual vomit. Ticks all boxes, yet some people still babbling about meaningful combat

And what is your problem with people playing LS? You can play your slow and methodical skills all day but don't force it on others.

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MaxW81#9965 wrote:

And what is your problem with people playing LS? You can play your slow and methodical skills all day but don't force it on others.

Try to comprehend what he means. LS is poe1 in a nutshell, and it seems the majority of poe2 players want exactly the same.

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AYRE_LOVE#3388 wrote:

Some noisy people say "ZOOM ZOOM is bad, it's not a game play", but many ARPG player want ZOOM ZOOM, one button or zero button play, no dodge and facetanking, because ARPG is not an action game, but a build simulator.

> Go play Diablo 4
> Zoom Zoom for a day
> Realise it's not what you want at all
> Come back and demand PoE2 changes
> You don't even know what you want
> Complain on forums

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Acaste7#4977 wrote:

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AYRE_LOVE#3388 wrote:

Some noisy people say "ZOOM ZOOM is bad, it's not a game play", but many ARPG player want ZOOM ZOOM, one button or zero button play, no dodge and facetanking, because ARPG is not an action game, but a build simulator.

> Go play Diablo 4
> Zoom Zoom for a day
> Realise it's not what you want at all
> Come back and demand PoE2 changes
> You don't even know what you want
> Complain on forums

I know what I want...only one thing I want is 3.26.

1. You are also a minority, and I urge you to remember this.

2. If you don't spend money and experience it for free, then the community is the same; if you spend money, then the community spends more than you do. I believe GGG is a For-profit organization.

3. What is the purpose of complex and professional solutions? In order to make a normal toilet into a "fake hardcore" mode - when you go to the toilet, you have to flush every 15 seconds, otherwise the toilet paper will be reduced by 20%. If you don't use your right hand, then you are not using the toilet according to the "ideas of professional toilet designers", and mobile phones, newspapers, and magazines are not allowed in the toilet, because you have to remember that this is a challenge!

4. Twenty years ago, I thought that Minesweeper and Spider Solitaire on the XP system were very fun. Do I have to urge Microsoft engineers not to update any new systems, otherwise there will be new games that will cause me to no longer enjoy the fun of old games?

5. You accuse all community members of being unprofessional. Where are your professional answers, professional solutions, professional designs, professional game production solutions, etc.? I browsed the 22 pages of posts so far, and I only saw your answer:
"A simpler fix without breaking the grander vision of the game is to introduce a "power inheritance" feature for characters."
Haha, to be honest, this is not even as good as the solution proposed by "Community Non-Professionals", and if I remember correctly, someone had already proposed "power inheritance" in POE five years ago.

6. I have no offense or malice, but I really want to say that if you can't come up with a complete solution and criticize others for spending a long time to make content (editing is very time-consuming), then you are really very much like one person - POM, but at least he spent time making content, instead of a simple sentence "power inheritance".

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Acaste7#4977 wrote:

> Go play Diablo 4
> Zoom Zoom for a day
> Realise it's not what you want at all
> Come back and demand PoE2 changes
> You don't even know what you want
> Complain on forums

I for sure know it.

I want PoE1 depths of mechanics and itemisation and building with Zoom Zoom and being able to clear screen and one shot the boss



Worked for me in PoE1. It was SUPER FUN.

Sadly it is Settlers and not Affliction, otherwise I would play it for 10 months easily.

PoE2 is just Ruthless, and it already dropped to 10% of release numbers even with Lightning Spear, nerf it and we will have 5% of release numbers.

Because no one wants Ruthless, with little exceptions.

Also PoE1 always had more players when they gave players more power, and when they tried to nerf players (Harvest removal, Expedition), numbers tanked.