I'm saying goodbye to the game

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Ehpic_Smurv#3114 wrote:

people seem to think the game is fully released, it's an early access, essentially a beta.

The game at 1.0 is not going to be anything like 0.2 or even 0.1. it's going to get iterated on over the upcoming year+ and change every patch. Metas will shift and get re-defined. Good items will become bad, then tweaked back up over time. Bad items will also get tweaked up or down as needed.

if you can't get over that, maybe you shouldnt play early access/betas.

The "It's Early Access" argument mostly makes sense when we are talking about flawed stuff, needs improvement, isn't ready yet, yadda yadda.
Like bugs we find, content that is missing, balance that needs adjustment, and whatever else.
What we sadly cannot easily swipe away with "It's Early Access" are regression and decline.

Obviously, they decrease the power of broken stuff to get it more in line, but where are the improvements of weak and mostly useless stuff?
Seems like they nerfed more than needed and didn't buff most things asked for.

Where are the adjustments for crafting materials/currency/drops that improve the item progression?
Seems like they changed something or are unaware of a change related, thus ppl report and prove how huge the difference is.

Where is the build diversity Path of Exile is known for and the meaningful combat we here over and over marketed in our brain?
Seems like you cuck yourself massively if you don't play a one-button full-screen clear build, again.

I could make this list even longer. The point is:
PoE2 0.1.0 was rough at the edges, had flaws, bugs, balance issues, was overtuned and so on, we knew that, we saw that, we reported it with our feedback, BUT GGG managed (according to not only a few ppl) to make it worse; going from 0.1.0 to 0.2.0, when it should be the opposite - generally.

Nobody expects a patch to be perfect, but ppl expect it not to be worse in most cases than the patch before.

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Ehpic_Smurv#3114 wrote:

people seem to think the game is fully released, it's an early access, essentially a beta.

The game at 1.0 is not going to be anything like 0.2 or even 0.1. it's going to get iterated on over the upcoming year+ and change every patch. Metas will shift and get re-defined. Good items will become bad, then tweaked back up over time. Bad items will also get tweaked up or down as needed.

if you can't get over that, maybe you shouldnt play early access/betas.

You do understand tho, that 1.0 will only be good if we whine about all the stuff that is bad, right? In order for GGG to change and improve systems they need people whining about those systems that are not working. If the forum was silent and everyone would be "I won't post my frustrations couse it's EA" then 1.0 would look like 0.1.

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Glowie_Zigger#5018 wrote:

EA or not, what they did with 0.2 was completely careless and if you don't agree then why are the devs patching the fuck out of the game every single day ? Would have been easier to learn from their lesson, revert back to 0.1 and just add huntress to that than to try and clean up the mess they've created here. You can't take an axe to every single element of your game simultaneously and expect balance to come from it. Now we have 1 working build and its a glass cannon. Can't build a single character with good defenses. Armour still useless. These are central game components not like oddball peripheral things that GGG should hopefully get to one day.

I just killed Arbiter at lowest difficulty and I am struggling to find any reason to continue playing even though I want to. How bad is that?

+1. Several core game elements still dont function even though they were adressed by the community as early as december (armor being useless for example, no life nodes on tree, etc.).

Additionally, there is no top endgame anymore and no reason to grind to beat pinnacles beyond "for completions sake". All their drops suck, no builds can use them (except Prism of Belief which you dont really need). Before, we had tons of viable builds and the only balance problem was one shotting pinnacles which could have been adressed by buffing those or nerfing single target damage for some builds. But they crippled the passive tree and most endgame items to the point where there is just nothing to grind for or to do after reaching maps or maybe beating T0 arbiter to "complete" the story.

That results in 0.2 being a severe step backwards in long term motivation for the game even though they fixed some short term issues. The endgame balancing of builds and the chase for godly items is gone entirely now.

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Ehpic_Smurv#3114 wrote:

people seem to think the game is fully released, it's an early access, essentially a beta.

The game at 1.0 is not going to be anything like 0.2 or even 0.1. it's going to get iterated on over the upcoming year+ and change every patch. Metas will shift and get re-defined. Good items will become bad, then tweaked back up over time. Bad items will also get tweaked up or down as needed.

if you can't get over that, maybe you shouldnt play early access/betas.

What do you mean? Every time GGG changes something, people will post about what they like and what they dislike. That is how an EA works. You should complain about things you don't like. And if you say, "If X stays the way it is now, I will not play this game," that is also completely valid and useful feedback.

The game being in EA is not a reason to stop complaining. It's a reason to start complaining.

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GregoryAdams#7051 wrote:

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Ehpic_Smurv#3114 wrote:

people seem to think the game is fully released, it's an early access, essentially a beta.

The game at 1.0 is not going to be anything like 0.2 or even 0.1. it's going to get iterated on over the upcoming year+ and change every patch. Metas will shift and get re-defined. Good items will become bad, then tweaked back up over time. Bad items will also get tweaked up or down as needed.

if you can't get over that, maybe you shouldnt play early access/betas.

What do you mean? Every time GGG changes something, people will post about what they like and what they dislike. That is how an EA works. You should complain about things you don't like. And if you say "If X stays the way it is now, I will not play this game," thats is also completely valid and useful feedback.

The game being in EA is not a reason to stop complaining. It's a reason to start complaining.

I agree it is. But GGG handles the EA in a way that its basically useless to complain cause changes are actually rare. GGG has to do one thing Treat POE2 like Early access instead of how they are treating POE1.

Which includes a Patch Cycle of at best 2 Weeks instead of around 4 Months.

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Ehpic_Smurv#3114 wrote:

people seem to think the game is fully released, it's an early access, essentially a beta.

The game at 1.0 is not going to be anything like 0.2 or even 0.1. it's going to get iterated on over the upcoming year+ and change every patch. Metas will shift and get re-defined. Good items will become bad, then tweaked back up over time. Bad items will also get tweaked up or down as needed.

if you can't get over that, maybe you shouldnt play early access/betas.

We understand this is in EA. What people are pissed about is that the game was 10x more rewarding and fun in .1. They have effectively made the game worse in every aspect possible.

They arent listening to feedback.

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GregoryAdams#7051 wrote:

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Ehpic_Smurv#3114 wrote:

people seem to think the game is fully released, it's an early access, essentially a beta.

The game at 1.0 is not going to be anything like 0.2 or even 0.1. it's going to get iterated on over the upcoming year+ and change every patch. Metas will shift and get re-defined. Good items will become bad, then tweaked back up over time. Bad items will also get tweaked up or down as needed.

if you can't get over that, maybe you shouldnt play early access/betas.

What do you mean? Every time GGG changes something, people will post about what they like and what they dislike. That is how an EA works. You should complain about things you don't like. And if you say, "If X stays the way it is now, I will not play this game," that is also completely valid and useful feedback.

The game being in EA is not a reason to stop complaining. It's a reason to start complaining.

Ohh Im sure PoE community know how to do that !!! :D

They regressed the game a lot from 0.1 to 0.2

They brought a ridiculous "endgame" mechanic
And they worsened all the farming mechanics in the game.
Not to mention the other aspects, which could fit into a book.

I really hope that tomorrow they will have a shock with the le, and decide to listen to the community.

Instead of listening to a director who asks to scale armor to tank chaos dot.

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Vzwson#6959 wrote:

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Ehpic_Smurv#3114 wrote:

people seem to think the game is fully released, it's an early access, essentially a beta.

The game at 1.0 is not going to be anything like 0.2 or even 0.1. it's going to get iterated on over the upcoming year+ and change every patch. Metas will shift and get re-defined. Good items will become bad, then tweaked back up over time. Bad items will also get tweaked up or down as needed.

if you can't get over that, maybe you shouldnt play early access/betas.

We understand this is in EA. What people are pissed about is that the game was 10x more rewarding and fun in .1. They have effectively made the game worse in every aspect possible.

They arent listening to feedback.

My brain is so cooked. I read your "They have effectively made the game worse in every aspect possible.", and read the "effectively" in Jonathan's voice.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1h38i5w/jonathan_effectively_rogers/

good riddance