The worst ARPG of them all

If I could encapsulate my problems in a nutshell

1) The campaign simply takes too long.

2) It takes way too much effort/time to get even a basic build "online" for most classes. And I don't mean like fully endgame tweaked out, just like feeling mostly usable. Arc sorc is a good example.

For a longer explanation:

I'm playing LA Deadeye (though my own brew of it using electrocution and rain of arrows, not following the meta build exactly) and even with one of the faster classes the campaign still feels too long. I'm not getting stuck, I'm beating bosses on my first try and it usually is under a minute clear time on them.

Starting this league I made an arc sorc and it just flatlined halfway through act 2. I'm not saying it would be impossible to push through it but it felt easier to just reroll a better class so I could farm gear for it. But with how long the campaign is I think I'll just farm on maps on my deadeye then quit.

The whole loop where I find a cool item(s) and want to build an alt around it doesn't exist cause making an alt is extremely arduous.

I really think something is off with the balance/pacing somewhere around act 2. You don't have enough passives/skills/gems to really have your build going and you'll still be using trash items but the rate the game ramps up enemy health is too high for most non-meta builds to keep up with.

Broadly I like the game, but sometimes it doesn't feel fun. I think once the player starts wanting the campaign to just be over already something's gone wrong.

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Artaniz#4006 wrote:

Yes the title is hyperbolic.

However now that i have tried for a second time to play PoE 2 , first time in 0.1 got to maps all the way to end maps > loot uninspired , crafting trash , endgame map system abysmal and tedious and punishing for no reward.

This time , this time i cant even force myself to slog out the campaign , i even made sure to pick a viable meta build but moving is so slow , and i just dont see how the zoomer dark souls crowd can think that moving like you have lead weights on your feet plus dodge roll every other second is engaging gameplay.

None of these skills feel good either , i dont enjoy any of the combat , it feels tedious even on trash packs. The gear is better now than in 0.1 for the campaign but its still boring and none of it feels good to ID even if it is a slight upgrade.

I just think PoE 2 is complete garbage and no amount of ohh the campaign is so good ( it isnt after the first playthrough ) makes up for it.

In 15 years i never quit a PoE 1 league , this is now the4 second PoE 2 league im quitting and i dont think i will be playing another one , this one left such a bad taste i dont think i will be buying anything in PoE 1 anymore either , since its obvious they arte no longer valuing the PoE players anyhow.

At the end of the day times change , this is apparently what the new zoomer gamers want and i realize im just old man yelling at the sky here but its disappointing to have something you love turn into such a trash product.

You are lucky. You like poe1 and you have 15 years to enjoy poe1.

I am not so lucky. I hate poe1 and for 15 years, I never complete a poe1 league and most of the time, never even play the league at all.

I thought that I will never touch a game from ggg again. It's most unexpected that poe2 actually comes out after 15 years and poe2 is actually the game that I am waiting for.

Rule number 1 when playing a caster - get a wand with at least 3 to the desired element, or wand with 2 and shield with 1. Caster itemization is completely screwed.

uhhhhhh poe hasn't been out 15 years..... an your first league was harvest.....

+1

The fundamental issue I see with POE2 is that the campaign seems to be the feature of the game the devs are spending so much time on. They want this grand campaign, but that has never been the focus of POE1 and what made their style of game "great".

Simply put, players don't want to play through a 20-30+ hour campaign every single season. And yes, I understand that some absolute madmen can speedrun the campaign even in its current form, but most players are stuck with a much longer campaign. In contrast, my record for speedrunning the POE1 campaign was under 5 hours, and my casual friends in POE1 could still complete the campaign within ~10-12 hours on very sub-optimal builds.

So ultimately the devs have a choice to make here:

1) Reduce the length of the campaign so people that have already beaten it once can get all the permanent bonuses and still complete it within 10-15 hours MAX.

2) Allow players to skip the campaign in fresh seasonal economies somehow.

If they don't pick one of these choices, POE2 will fail.

POE2 is the best ARPG in over a decade.
The rest that have released were all just slot machine simulators with zero game play.

That said the balance is completely unacceptable and the game is far, far, far too easy.

Yeah, the campaign is just a slogfest without anything exciting happening. Did they nerfed drops even compared to 0.1 because I feel like you don't even get loot or runes now which just lead to me straight up buying gear in the campaign because my resists and weapon just sucked.

If they don't do anything about this I definitely don't have it in me to do this over and over each league

More like The Worst ARPG Player of Them All, amirite?

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baconbyte#0146 wrote:

uhhhhhh poe hasn't been out 15 years..... an your first league was harvest.....

RELEASE DATE: Oct 23, 2013

Technically you are correct, by a couple months and some change..


:)

For me, the most fun arpg, with better gameplay, light years ahead of the others, including Poe.