3 TABLETS + 6 MODS = NO REVIVES = NO FUN. WHY GGG. THIS SUCKS BAD!!!

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XxxPssySlayerxxX#5201 wrote:

I ‘ve found the solution for this, use headhunter for map clearing, and turn off atlas tree for bosses.

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Oniji#5988 wrote:

I agree that 0 revives as a penalty for running 6 mod maps is incredibly frustrating. You get quadruple punished for dying in these maps. You lose:
1) Experience, which at a high level (97+) should be punishment enough
2) You lose the waystone itself (which could be a lot depending on how juiced it is) and the time it took to curate it (getting the right roll, with the right rarity and rare monsters and pack size, desecrating the right thing, distilling it)
3) You lose league mechanics and affixes affecting it. Essentially killing its ability to give a meaningful amount of loot.
4) If it is on a path to somewhere you need to get to, you are being forced to rerun it just as a stepping stone to the next thing.
It just feels awful.

I cannot tell you the number of times where I have rolled my 50+ maps, and after the first 3-4 maps, I die. Then just afk in the hideout for the next hour out of sheer frustration.

The mapping system has arguably higher difficulty than POE1, plus you have a boss at the end of the map that are more mechanically complex than in POE 1, yet you only have 1/6th the number of attempts to complete the waystone. It feels like two design philosophies at odds with one another.

The main issue is that as you go from campaign to juiced end-game, it "feels" like the proportion of deaths dealt to you become increasingly via RNG of mod-stacking and less about your own mechanical mistakes (even if it usually is). Most times deaths feel unfair. Either you died to a ground mechanic that was obscured. You got an unlucky crit. You died to a mechanic that wasn't clearly telegraphed/poorly visually communicated such that you don't know what killed you, and so, don't know what to improve or do differently the next time.

I get that a game should have risk vs. reward. But it just feels horrible when, not only can you make zero mistakes in a map (which can be exhausting having to be that switched on for hours on end). But you are also contending with high spikes of modstacking rng.

You could argue, why not just run the waystones with fewer mods to get more revives. The opportunity cost is way too high to be running 5 mod maps with the amount of investment needed to get meaningful amounts of loot. So it almost feels like you are shoehorned into running 0 revive waystones.

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MeanBob_Games#6853 wrote:

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XxxPssySlayerxxX#5201 wrote:

I ‘ve found the solution for this, use headhunter for map clearing, and turn off atlas tree for bosses.

I've honestly just been skipping bosses unless I 100% need to path through. There loot is absolute garbage even when juiced. Maybe once I hit my next/final level I'll fight them more but they're not worth the risk of "unavoidable" attacks that are all fucking one shots.

The two laziest forms of artificial difficulty in designing enemies are unavoidable one shots and invulnerability mechanic.

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MeanBob_Games#6853 wrote:

unavoidable one shots

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Tatonka81#5058 wrote:

Ahh, responses from deadeye players. Figures.