Player based will leave and this game will die out if they don't remove the XP Penalty

Besides everyone will be back once they add the final 3 acts and fix end game. Stop trying to blackmail the devs in implementing something that can be fixed by getting better at the game.
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
What about a Baby league instead, where you just can't die ; instead of changing the rules of Softcore. If you can't die, no xp penalty, no map loss. And the lower the health, the darker your screen (scary!)


Reported for harrasment.


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I wouldn't say no to a reapproach on the exp penalty, but considering how long PoE1 remained profitable the exp penalty on its own won't make people leave. Far more likely to be one-attempt maps that cost you loot, mechanics, tower influence, waystone, AND the exp penalty that is gonna make people quit.


Speaking for myself, it's way worse to lose XP than the other punishments. Taking away progress earned is more offensive than just losing time and waystones & is the primary reason that this game stopped being my every day game.


the exp loss is what breaks the game for me too. who cares about losing waystones or omens. if playing the game is fun you will just find more. but when you play for 4 hours and die twice to lose all your exp.. its the game TEACHING the player not to play the game. its ridiculous. exp loss in D2 NEVER felt this way, and level 98-99 was BRUTAL in terms of the number baal runs, but death always felt fair and even with playing, leveling, and dying the game d2 was still fun.
Last edited by finalhatdeed#0459 on Feb 6, 2025, 7:01:55 PM
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I wouldn't say no to a reapproach on the exp penalty, but considering how long PoE1 remained profitable the exp penalty on its own won't make people leave. Far more likely to be one-attempt maps that cost you loot, mechanics, tower influence, waystone, AND the exp penalty that is gonna make people quit.


Speaking for myself, it's way worse to lose XP than the other punishments. Taking away progress earned is more offensive than just losing time and waystones & is the primary reason that this game stopped being my every day game.


the exp loss is what breaks the game for me too. who cares about losing waystones or omens. if playing the game is fun you will just find more. but when you play for 4 hours and die twice to lose all your exp.. its the game TEACHING the player not to play the game. its ridiculous. exp loss in D2 NEVER felt this way, and level 98-99 was BRUTAL in terms of the number baal runs, but death always felt fair and even with playing, leveling, and dying the game d2 was still fun.


+1, very well said, especially about, "who cares about losing waystones or omens. if playing the game is fun you will just find more."
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Last edited by ac429#4687 on Feb 6, 2025, 7:04:19 PM
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
What about a Baby league instead, where you just can't die ; instead of changing the rules of Softcore. If you can't die, no xp penalty, no map loss. And the lower the health, the darker your screen (scary!)


Reported for harrasment.


Reported for acting like a child and not being able to spell harassment. See can all pretend to be offended and say we reported people for doing nothing
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ac429#4687 wrote:

+1, very well said, especially about, "who cares about losing waystones or omens. if playing the game is fun you will just find more."


Yeah. And this logic also applies to XP.
You are right. Very well said.
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ac429#4687 wrote:
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Speaking for myself, it's way worse to lose XP than the other punishments. Taking away progress earned is more offensive than just losing time and waystones & is the primary reason that this game stopped being my every day game.


the exp loss is what breaks the game for me too. who cares about losing waystones or omens. if playing the game is fun you will just find more. but when you play for 4 hours and die twice to lose all your exp.. its the game TEACHING the player not to play the game. its ridiculous. exp loss in D2 NEVER felt this way, and level 98-99 was BRUTAL in terms of the number baal runs, but death always felt fair and even with playing, leveling, and dying the game d2 was still fun.


+1, very well said, especially about, "who cares about losing waystones or omens. if playing the game is fun you will just find more."


Honestly that's a good point, losing something already earned arguably is worse than losing something potential but not guaranteed. The current system, though, still means you also lose mechs, tower influence, waystone, and dropped loot, too, so that still feels shitty. You still earned that tower and tablet, you still earned the waystone, you still earned your way to that map and its mechs. Waystone especially feels bad given the risk of negative feedback loop. Even if only a potential, you'd have to get nuked immediately to lose, say, breach rewards as the likelihood of not finding at least a splinter is pretty low unless it was badly positioned and only spawned 5 mobs. That being said, one bad waystone drought and you could fall many tiers back from what you regularly run. If they ever did get rid of exp loss (cuz god damn did that start driving me away from PoE1, too) I would not complain whatsoever.
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
What about a Baby league instead, where you just can't die ; instead of changing the rules of Softcore. If you can't die, no xp penalty, no map loss. And the lower the health, the darker your screen (scary!)


Reported for harrasment.


Reported for acting like a child and not being able to spell harassment. See can all pretend to be offended and say we reported people for doing nothing


Reported for insult
they're not removing this penalty and its not going to kill anything. Move on. Play better, farm gear when it gets rippy, play smart: farm omens for level 95+

Be a gamer.
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
Give me one reason why you don't want a "baby league" where you don't lose EXP on death.
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