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No. The hate for Jonathan is so forced it's embarrassing. It's a bunch of angry PoE1 players upset that PoE2 isn't shaping up to be reskinned PoE1. Womp womp.
SSFBTW
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Posted byBarthalos#1797on Apr 20, 2025, 11:04:26 AM
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Look inward, OP.
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Posted byBilbologna#3059on Apr 20, 2025, 11:04:48 AM
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when your 'vision' gets in the way of LISTENING TO FEEDBACK maybe you should just go work for Disney. You see how well that is working out for them. Without the theme parks they'd be out of business.
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Posted byImezruez2#3129on Apr 20, 2025, 11:06:26 AM
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Not a good comparison considering
Comparison is good. Because this new league is actually "new class only and nothing else".
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Yet you would expect a higher than previous retention level due to the larger player numbers?
The next league will be a wake up call if things stay the same.
Retention is ~same as of 0.1 start. Just with lower overall numbers. And Jonathan said he himself (before 0.2 launched) expected exactly that. As for next league, again he expects numbers to be higher. Will see.
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Posted byAzimuthus#1135on Apr 20, 2025, 11:08:25 AM
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I watched the last interview and honestly the thing that stood out the most is how defensive Jonathan was and how reluctant he was to accept the feedback he was given. I currently have 620 hours in POE2 and honestly I am still not having fun. Why am I still playing? Because I really want this game to succeed and I do see the potential. Unfortunately, it seems like there is some type of road block within GGG that is prohibiting the team from making the changes it needs to make the game attractive to the masses. This is not a personal shot at Jonathan, he is very likeable person, but sometimes we let our egos in the way of getting things done. Our way is not always the right way even though we may think it is. Listen to your players GGG. Below is some feedback I would like to include, mostly about the campaign leveling experience as I know there has been a lot of feedback about endgame/mapping already:
1. Leveling is not rewarding, the character progression is too slow. The build progression is gated by a lack of spirit gems dropping and skill gems dropping. I have noticed that level 7 and 8 skill gems barely drop. Also again in the late 30s.
2. Jeweler Orbs are too rare and this ties into my first point about build progression being too slow.
3. Mob damage is still too high. If the average player does not pick a Meta build like LS they found online, they will die and they will die a lot. Dying is not fun, getting one shotted is not fun.
4. There is no pathing in narrow areas and mobs will swarm you and trap you in. There is no dodge rolling out, you are just dead.
5. There is no build diversity. You are forced to play a meta build to have any type of fun. What is the point of all these support gems, skills and ascendancies if everything outside of the few Meta builds does terrible damage. Why is fire so bad?
6. Drops are not exciting. In other games you are excited to kill the next mob to see what drops, in POE2 you are killing mobs hoping for a spirit gem. Its sad. I know this has been brought up, but GGG apparently ran sims and they think its good so they are just going to increase boss drops. GGG your sims are wrong. Again, listen to your players.
I can't stress how bad the campaign leveling experience feels. I love to make alts and run the campaign an abnormal amount of times. Its just not fun. If it is not fun for someone that has put in 600+ hours, how do you think it will be fun for a casual player? Casual players will not play this game in its current state. I know this is pre-release, that is why I hope my feedback is received with an open mind and it is understood that I want the best for this game.
1. you can go back and drop more gems if you need them.
2. ok, they are, so what?
3. seems like average players cant even play the game by themselves. there are plenty of unique and working builds.
4. just... dont run in narrows like a sheep? what else to say on this lol
5. they are listening to their players, not whiners... theres difference
6. so youre not excited when you get thore rare jewelers orb drops? lold again
No Jonathan is not the problem, problem are people expecting to everything be just given to them, because they bought a game.
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Posted byk3bab#2114on Apr 20, 2025, 11:17:26 AM
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when your 'vision' gets in the way of LISTENING TO FEEDBACK maybe you should just go work for Disney. You see how well that is working out for them. Without the theme parks they'd be out of business.
Disney are losing Millions Dollars with Snowwhite for not listening consumers...
Companies that trusted on Woke movement ruined games, films and more for not listening consumers...and lost millions dollars...
In every way of life, dont listen is equal to fail (later or sooner)
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Posted bynewyork123#5522on Apr 20, 2025, 11:23:19 AM
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6. so youre not excited when you get thore rare jewelers orb drops? lold again
No Jonathan is not the problem, problem are people expecting to everything be just given to them, because they bought a game.
No not even a LITTLE we'd have to ACTUALLY DROP IT to get excited about it that's the entire POINT.
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Posted byImezruez2#3129on Apr 20, 2025, 11:28:44 AM
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No. The hate for Jonathan is so forced it's embarrassing. It's a bunch of angry PoE1 players upset that PoE2 isn't shaping up to be reskinned PoE1. Womp womp.
Has nothing to do with POE1. I never played POE1 and would rather have Mark in charge just based on the interviews. Jonathan seems completely clueless regarding some of the core issues.
One example is the horrible loot drop rate. It's bad all around yet the solution is to just fix it for bosses and wisps.
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Posted byqQbonmjtAZ#7824on Apr 20, 2025, 11:35:41 AM
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No. The hate for Jonathan is so forced it's embarrassing. It's a bunch of angry PoE1 players upset that PoE2 isn't shaping up to be reskinned PoE1. Womp womp.
Jonathan has been nothing but Kind and respectful for the community. I like him cause he has a genuine love for the game and its clear he respects his team.
I respect him even more when he did the interview with that annoying voiced streamer Ziz and how he kept pushing back at him about the frugality of his statements.
The best was when Ziz brought up speed to campaign and Jonathan was like...why does it matter how quick the campaign goes if you're having fun. Every point he brought back at Ziz was a sentiment to his love/passion for the game and his understanding of the game and how the new community for POE 2 will differ from POE 1.
The dude is the goat.
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Posted byHyperspacing#5593on Apr 20, 2025, 11:36:45 AM
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What point? Theyre rare.
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